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When The Captors Want The Hostage Dead, Is It Kidnapping?

Oct 16, 2013 15:24

The sheer silliness of even casting a shadow of a glimmer of a sliver of blame on the Democratic Party members in Congress regarding this shutdown thing is laughable enough. There is more than enough evidence that the Tea Party has run with this ball all the way. I won't bother recounting it here ( Read more... )

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jerseycajun October 17 2013, 01:38:55 UTC

Glenn Beck posits the Administration wants the same thing by not being willing to concede to what the GOP sees as smaller and smaller terms.

I don't drink his Kool Aid or, as in what this post seems to posit, the bizzaro Glenn Beck theory.

Don't be like Glenn Beck, or bizzaro Glenn Beck.

fizzyland October 17 2013, 02:45:19 UTC

Except that this was all about repealing/defunding/delaying the ACA, for the 40th+ time.

Why are you listening to Glenn Beck? His credibility level is up there with crazies who launch into rants on the bus.

cheezyfish October 17 2013, 03:06:38 UTC

Was it? How can you be so sure? Is it not conceivable that the shutdown was about leverage in the debt ceiling fight?

telemann October 17 2013, 03:16:29 UTC

Oh it's easy to be sure? How? Because Speaker Boehner said it himself.

House Speaker John Boehner’s (R-OH) interview with ABC News on Sunday in which Boehner did not deny that in July 2013 he offered Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) a continued resolution for government spending at levels below what Democrats wanted - while continuing to fund the Affordable Care Act - only to renege on the offer later.

“I and my members decided that the threat of Obamacare and what was happening was so important that it was time for us to take a stand."

cheezyfish October 17 2013, 03:30:19 UTC

Oh yes. Boehner, in an effort to strengthen his hand in the debt ceiling negotiations goes out and says "oh, this isn't really about Obamacare, we are just using it as a bargaining chip." Was it you who said he was stupid in the thread a few weeks ago? Apparently, he is 9 steps ahead of you.

telemann October 17 2013, 03:57:17 UTC

Was it you who said he was stupid in the thread a few weeks ago?

Considering what the Republicans gained (i.e. nothing).

Yeah, I'll stand by that assessment.

Apparently, he is 9 steps ahead of you.

And apparently one step behind Senator Cruz, and a mile behind the President.

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