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papasha_mueller July 22 2013, 18:54:39 UTC
"the law could mean that any Olympic athlete, trainer, reporter, family member or fan who is gay - or suspected of being gay, or just accused of being gay - can go to jail"

Mr. Ferstein IS a liar.
The law in question is NOT against being gay, lesbian, transvestite or all of the above, be you olympics athlet, or ballet dancer, or hot dog street seller.
This law claims illegal the PROPAGANDA of being gay, etc.
And not just propaganda - the propaganda of this joy TO THE CHILDREN, it is supposed that Russian adults can take it without damage.

The rest is bullshit.

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dexeron July 22 2013, 18:58:18 UTC
And not just propaganda - the propaganda of this joy TO THE CHILDREN,

And would such "propoganda" include having the gall to dare to exist, and do so in public?

Gee, sounds a lot like "any person who is gay can go to jail" to me.

Might as well say: "You can have free speech, but only so long as you don't say anything."

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papasha_mueller July 22 2013, 19:02:24 UTC
Your fantasies, sonny, aren't flying high enough.
Why won't you just read the law, it's published?

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dexeron July 22 2013, 19:05:12 UTC
Which one? There are two.

Do you mean the one allowing police to arrest tourists and other foreign nationals merely suspected of being gay?

Or do you mean the one so broadly worded that any expression of tolerance for homosexuality can be criminalized, so long as it can be shown that that expression is "accessable" by children. In other words, even merely publically stating that gay people should have equal rights.

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papasha_mueller July 22 2013, 19:07:54 UTC
"Which one? There are two."

I suggest you do both. Otherwise we're leaving the exposure window for more crap, aren't we?

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telemann July 22 2013, 19:03:44 UTC
Exactly.

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rimpala July 22 2013, 19:30:15 UTC
"You can have free speech, but only so long as you don't say anything"

Couldn't have said it better myself

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peristaltor July 23 2013, 18:38:56 UTC
"You can have free speech, but only so long as you don't say anything."

Well, of course. If you said something, it would cost you.

(Get it?)

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dziga123 July 22 2013, 19:19:55 UTC
"This law claims illegal the PROPAGANDA of being gay" "...propaganda of this joy TO THE CHILDREN..."
This is usual Russian doublespeak. You can't run "Gay Pride Parade" anywhere in Russia any more because it "can be seen by children", open gay can't be public figure, because he "can be seen by children" on TV, open gay can't work at school, because "there are children",

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telemann July 22 2013, 19:21:25 UTC
I hope two gay Olympic athletes will kiss at the games ;)

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yes_justice July 23 2013, 13:23:41 UTC
HAWT!

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papasha_mueller July 22 2013, 20:49:04 UTC
"This is usual Russian doublespeak"
"This is typical american BS." (c)

Shall we stop it?

PS. You didn't think of hiring a hall, puting a sticker 'adults only' onto the front door and exercise gay propaganda as long as you can stand it.
Or did you?

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yes_justice July 23 2013, 14:58:19 UTC
"gay propaganda"

Please provide an example of criminal "gay propoganda".

Update, pretty please?

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peristaltor July 23 2013, 18:40:28 UTC
Shall we stop it?

Not until you do.

(And by "you", I mean everyone in Russia perpetuating this bullshit. Not you personally, of course. That would be inflammatory.)

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flaming_goat July 23 2013, 20:27:27 UTC
Why do you need a Gay Pride Parade? It's not enough to be fabulous on your own?

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telemann July 23 2013, 21:17:28 UTC
Why do you need a Victory Day parade. Isn't it enough to be victorious on your own?

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