Should The West automatically give a political asylum to a Russian street protester?

Jan 24, 2013 16:41

Gentlemen: I believe there is a case of a serious disconnect and I need your help to clarify the situation.

What happended: Alexander Dolmatov, a member of a Russian opposition party The Other Russia (effectively a renamed National Bolshevik Party) decided to take part in a street meeting that led him to a fight with a Russian police: Dolmatov is ( Read more... )

poll, freedom of speech, democracy, russia

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fizzyland January 25 2013, 03:32:56 UTC
Are you Russian security? You have that wholesome look of deep cover agents sent into America to undermine our great nation.

/maybe I've been watching too many previews of The Americans

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panchul January 25 2013, 03:40:00 UTC
No, I am not a Russian security. I am an engineer in the area of Electronic Design Automation (EDA).

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fizzyland January 25 2013, 05:25:10 UTC
Good to know - I used to work in electronics as well.

In general I don't think street protesters earn special protection - other countries have their own problems to attend to.

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imfromjasenevo January 25 2013, 05:15:14 UTC
i'm sure that even he is not member of 50 cent party.
there is a plenty of russian guys sucking Putin's dick for free

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panchul January 25 2013, 05:35:48 UTC
I think you are imagining something. I am not discussing Putin in my post.

This post is about a misperception of some Russian folks. Please re-read what I wrote:

I personally think that Oleg Kashin and other Russians like him have a mistaken assumption about how the West perceives these "fighters for the democracy" in Russia. Kashin probably think that Dolmatov-type political activists are a kind of proxy fighters of the West in its mission to democratise Russia. As a result they expect the West to protect these activists from any misfortune. I also may be mistaken, so I decided to create a poll:

Do you see any mention of Putin in my text?

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imfromjasenevo January 25 2013, 06:05:21 UTC
"When we say Lenin - we mean Party, when we say Party - we mean Lenin!"
Actually, you have distorted the context of Dolmatov's history

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panchul January 25 2013, 07:08:55 UTC
I have no idea what you are talking about.

Why do you think I distorted the context of Dolmatov's story?

I presented the elements I considered essential and included a link to Kashin's article.

I don't think the immigration office in Netherlands has means to accurately distinguish between the real and exaggerated threats based on Dolmatov's words.

If you wish, you can present your version of the story and I will insert it into my post.

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