Freedom ain't easy

Sep 08, 2012 00:08

Hi, my dear apathetic drones fiery fighters for freedom! Thursday was a big holiday in my country, especially in my town. It commemorated the only time we had the guts to do something that was right - totally on our own, against all odds, and in defiance of everybody else's interests. And then to stand by it and stake everything to defend it. " ( Read more... )

balkans, democracy, history, slavery, opinion

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sandwichwarrior September 7 2012, 21:20:40 UTC
That is the road to serfdom is it not?

Certain people (regular posters on this forum) will tell me that I'm a delusional fool for valuing free will, or thinking that I have any control what-so-ever over my fate. They may even be right.

But if you abdicate responcbility for your own circumstances, where does that leave you?

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underlankers September 7 2012, 21:26:59 UTC
Still required to handle them as they actually exist. Not being responsible for them is great and all until you're still starving and facing the reality day in and day out. This type of argument is why both libertarianism and its bizarro counterpart Marxism can never co-exist with the real world.

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sandwichwarrior September 7 2012, 21:36:05 UTC
Pretty much.

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htpcl September 8 2012, 09:16:29 UTC
> Certain people (regular posters on this forum)

If you're going to say something like this, you better be able to substantiate it, or else you'd be called out on making shit up.

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sandwichwarrior September 8 2012, 18:25:42 UTC
I was thinking specifically of Enders_Shadow and Pastorlenny but was under the impression that calling them out directly was against the rules.

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htpcl September 8 2012, 19:55:11 UTC
Then wouldn't "some people" be the most neutral option?

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