The growing list of Romney Untruths

[chessdev]

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For those who are watching the 2012 presidential race closely, Mitt Romney's penchant for falsehoods is hard to miss. Michael Cohen summarized the issue nicely this week in a piece for The Guardian:

Granted

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[musicpsych]

Romney talks about his business experience like it's some wonderful thing, but... it makes sense that someone who was a CEO would lie like this, and have the talent of being able to tell a convincing lie. It seems like business leadership is not necessarily about telling the truth, but being able to deliver a palatable statement, and about having answers - even if you have to make them up. Sometimes, "reality" is what the CEO claims it to be.

[telemann]

You know it's been suggested that presidential candidates take psychological testing, with the results made available. Considering research shows how many CEOs and politicians are psychopaths, and apparently their health seems to warrant scrutiny (e..g John McCain's age in the last election), I'm for it myself

[musicpsych]

Has it? I like that idea. Maybe a drug test, too. I remember the suggestion that if Florida welfare recipients are required to take a drug test, then Florida politicians should be required to take one, too.

[telemann]

I agree big time.

[whoasksfinds]

who argues against the auto Industry

this statement is pretty darn ironic considering the purpose of your post.

[chessdev]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/19/romney-auto-bailout-cheap_n_1610779.html

He's insisted throughout the 2012 campaign that the government never needed to bail out the auto companies, just shuttle them quickly through managed bankruptcy. But the argument ignores the role that government funds played in keeping those companies intact so they could make it to the managed bankruptcy process.

That would have effectively destroyed them...they would not have recovered without gvmt intervention - let alone as well as they did.

I dont think its ironic, nor a falsehod on the level of the itms on this list

[whoasksfinds]

calling for a managed bankruptcy (which is what actually happened) is not the same thing as arguing against the auto industry. he simply argued for a quicker path to the bankruptcy.

all your doing is propagating the same kind of misleading statements you accuse romney of making. it kind of defeats the purpose of the post.

[chessdev]

Well, first he argued for a pullout - not just a quicker path

[lai_choi_san]

Several months ago, I've read in the French newspaper Le Monde that George Romney's mistake in an interview in 1967 (his sincerity proved fatal to his hopes of being elected) probably influenced the son as for his own campaign strategy.

[underlankers]

Syria is Iran's route to the sea? Does Governor Romney know a damn thing about the Middle East?

For that matter, if the Israelis' 1967 borders were indefensible, what exactly happened in the Six Days' War or in 1956?

[underlankers]

Dammit, I wish I could edit on Livejournal. That being said, I would also add that I hardly see how Israel defended itself by annexing the Sinai and the West Bank and Gaza Strip, especially the last two, which are condemning it to its own self-destruction in slow motion at the very least as a democracy. Israel can be a democracy, or it can occupy Palestine. It cannot be both.

[mahnmut]

Syria being Iran's route to the sea makes sense actually. At least in the minds of the Iranians.

It's also Russia's route to the Mediterranean Sea.

[htpcl]

In any case, it makes much more sense than Ubeki-beki-beki-stan-stan.

[notmrgarrison]

10. Romney also claimed, "This president has put together almost as much public debt as all the prior presidents combined."

THE FACTS. Hardly. Presidents from George Washington through George W. Bush ran the national debt up to $10.62 trillion, the amount it was on the day Obama took office. Today, it is $15.67 trillion, according to the Treasury Department’s Bureau of Public Debt. So it has gone up by $5.05 trillion under Obama. That’s roughly half of the amount amassed by all the other presidents combined.

That's counting all the interest as debt put together by prior presidents. Romney didn't say "half the national debt was due to Obama".

Given that this is a person running for president, I'm guessing there are some valid items on this list, but there's some real crap in it.

"25" is hilarious.

"4. In the same interview, Romney said President Obama has "never had the experience of working in the private sector."

Actually, that's not true. Obama worked at a private-sector law firm before entering public service."

Ditto.

[telemann]

Romney at a Iowa caucus debate:

We all understand that the spending crisis is extraordinary, with $15 trillion now in debt, with a president that’s racked up as much debt as almost all of the other presidents combined."

So he said it.

Politifact:

Romney was trying to revive a talking point -- that by the end of his first term, Obama will have added as much debt as all the prior 43 presidents combined -- that was accurate enough to earn a Mostly True from PolitiFact. This time, though, he allowed small but significant changes to creep in and weaken its accuracy

[notmrgarrison]

* facepalm*

I have that quote in my post. I never claimed he didn't say it. Try re-reading.

[telemann]

We all understand that the spending crisis is extraordinary, with $15 trillion now in debt, with a president that’s racked up as much debt as almost all of the other presidents combined."

You included the Romney statement about the PUBLIC debt; but not that quote Poltifact said was mostly false.