The Marxist origins of the Tea-party

[sandwichwarrior]

...now that I have your attention allow me to explain

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[soliloquy76]

You see, if true a lot of Progressives are not honest proles as they like to present themselves but members of the ruling class.

Maybe I'm just tired and not seeing it, but I don't know how you're coming to this conclusion. Please elaborate.

[kylinrouge]

Poor people are members of the ruling class.

[kylinrouge]

Like teachers.

[sandwichwarrior]

You're fixating on the money when the real issue is power and influence.

Yes money can buy these things but it isn't the route.

[kylinrouge]

There are no poor people with power.

[sandwichwarrior]

Seeing as poverty is literally the absense of power, No shit.

[kylinrouge]

You can't just ignore the fact that people with power overwhelmingly have money.

Poverty is the absence of wealth.

[montecristo]

The absence of power is not necessarilly poverty, at least not in systems which still pay some lip service to the right of private property.

Re: Poverty is the absence of wealth.

[the_rukh]

I have no idea what you just said.

Re: Poverty is the absence of wealth.

[sandwichwarrior]

This is where the libertarians fuck up as well.

Property is meaningless without power.

Re: Poverty is the absence of wealth.

[sandwichwarrior]

To clarify.

If I owned the Moon, the moon and everything on it would be my property. But without the power to capitalize on or enforce my ownership rights my owning the moon is a meaningless formality.

Re: Poverty is the absence of wealth.

[geezer_also]

I just reread "The Man Who Sold the Moon".

[soliloquy76]

From another comment: "The general perception is that progressive want to increase the power of government to adress the above issues."

Now I see where he's coming from.

[sandwichwarrior]

The general perception is that progressives want to increase the power of government to adress so that they can forcefully address the issues of inequality and social justice.

The problem is that in doing so they have sided with the "Grande Bourgeoisie"

[fizzyland]

No, the problem with progressives is that we have the same handful of essentially conservative and acceptable candidates to represent us in government.