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sandwichwarrior in talk_politics

Common Knowledge

Jun 05, 2011 18:38

This post started as a response to Jeff's but started to get overly heavy and in keeping with the monthly topic so here it is in it's own thread ( Read more... )

science, bias

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404 June 6 2011, 01:47:28 UTC

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sandwichwarrior June 6 2011, 01:53:31 UTC

Aint I a stinker ;)

PS: Who is that in your macro?

404 June 6 2011, 01:56:28 UTC

Scarlett Johanssen

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well now I feel foolish sandwichwarrior June 6 2011, 01:58:35 UTC

Damn, would of thought I'd recognize her.

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anfalicious June 6 2011, 02:19:28 UTC

I think the issue comes where Fox viewers believe the evidence against AGW is more credible than it is (I'm not going to say it shouldn't be analysed, it should, that's part of the scientific method, but it seems fairly well dealt with to me) and that they think there is any possibility of Sharia law. There's people out there who want to be Emperor of the world, it doesn't mean we should be worried about that as a possibility.

This is what Fox does so well, it dogwhistles and massages and manipulates until they have people believing things that just are not true.

sandwichwarrior June 6 2011, 02:24:38 UTC

True, but this is something we all do and does not adress the issue that sometimes they are right but will be discounted simply because they are who they are.

As I said, everyone knows Bush lied, never mind the inconvient evidence.

gunslnger June 6 2011, 07:22:44 UTC

As do CNN and MSNBC. Unless you're just saying that they aren't as good at it.

blue_mangos June 6 2011, 11:45:59 UTC

Do they also routinely put (R) behind the names of Democrat politicians caught in scandals?

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meus_ovatio June 6 2011, 02:43:12 UTC

Except for you, right? I'm all about being cynical and all, but what I find most professed and wanna-be cynics to espouse is a reverse-naivete... don't trust them, but listen to me.

Politically speaking, we see it with Israel and Palestine. Don't listen to them, but take everything we say wholly and completely otherwise you are dumb.

I am the only true cynic. I don't trust anyone or anything. I don't even trust myself! I'm a lying sonofabitch, biased, faulty, stupid and wrong. God I'm an asshole.

Most "skepticism" is just sophistry. All it really is, is "believe me, but not them".

mrbogey June 6 2011, 03:56:09 UTC

'I am the only true cynic... I'm a lying sonofabitch, biased, faulty, stupid and wrong. God I'm an asshole."

Well... I... concur, I guess.

deborahkla June 6 2011, 20:48:42 UTC

Gee, that was productive.

ddstory June 6 2011, 20:56:56 UTC

No surprise.

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Using absolutely no wisdom here. stewstewstewdio June 6 2011, 02:43:20 UTC

I will open with an assertation; specifically that "conventional wisdom" is bullshit.

This isn't a critique, but just a gut feeling here. It seems like you are trying to convince yourself of your assertion in the post more than convince anyone else.

meus_ovatio June 6 2011, 02:45:32 UTC

You see we all know that Bush lied about Iraq's WMDs (ignore the uranium and the history) just as we Know that Sarah Palin is unfit to be president and Obama is.
Sure, uh-huh, because Iraq really had mobile weapons laboratories on rails that we had to make up fake pictures of in Photoshop, and we really knew where the WMD factories were, (Just ask Rummy: they were north, south, east, and west of Baghdad.)

You know, finding some true things doesn't mean people didn't lie. It means you missed the boat about what we're talking about.

squidb0i June 6 2011, 15:13:45 UTC

This.

xforge June 6 2011, 21:20:54 UTC

north, south, east, and west of Baghdad

How To Tell Someone Is Blowing Smoke Up Your Ass, Lesson 1.