That damned pro-gay law just got shoved down her throat (pun totally intended)

Sep 04, 2015 10:21

Supreme Court says Kentucky clerk can't deny same-sex marriage licenses...

Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis in Custody for Contempt of Court Over Same-Sex Marriage Licenses...

Wow, this has escalated quickly.

Obviously, one side says, well done Kim! You're a hero for standing up to those deviate dopes! Civil disobedience is the way! A point should be ( Read more... )

law, fundamentalism, same sex marriage, scandal

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ddstory September 4 2015, 07:29:17 UTC
She's a government employee. Her job is to uphold the laws. If she doesn't like them, she can leave. You don't get to keep your government job AND sabotage its very purpose.

She can take her bigotry beliefs home and keep them there.

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sandwichwarrior September 5 2015, 01:22:12 UTC
The fact that Eric Holder and Hillary Clinton both still have jobs is strong evidence to the contrary.

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ddstory September 5 2015, 06:39:30 UTC
Unsubstantiated partisan assertion presented in the form of a standard talking-point: check.

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sandwichwarrior September 6 2015, 15:30:41 UTC
Unsubstantiated?

Are you seriously going to deny that Clinton did not use a private server to conduct official business? Or that David Petraeus (then Head of the CIA) was stripped of his TSC and No-Forn clearances for the much more minor breach of taking work-books home with him?

Are you suggesting that Brian Terry and Sandra Dolezal were not killed by guns belonging to federal agents?

If so it is you making the partisan assertion presented in the form of a standard talking-point.

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johnny9fingers September 4 2015, 11:32:31 UTC
I feel sorry for her in her wrongness and bigotry. And yes she is culpable: for not doing the right thing by resigning when her religious beliefs and her statutory duties came into conflict.

But, in general, if I have to apportion blame, I would blame the mish-mash of religious beliefs and selectively literal Biblical interpretations which her newly-found faith has lumbered her with.

It appears many bigots are bigots because they adhere to belief systems which encourage bigotry.

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mahnmut September 4 2015, 12:14:19 UTC
Isn't any dogmatic doctrine inherently prone to nurturing bigotry? Especially religious ones.

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johnny9fingers September 4 2015, 16:21:19 UTC
Indeed.

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stewstewstewdio September 4 2015, 11:39:05 UTC
Kim Davis believes that marriage is a sacred union between 1 woman and a bunch of men. She's been married 4 times. OTH, courts aren't fond of being pissed on, especially the US Supreme Court. Yes, people are entitled to believe what they want. They are not, however, legally entitled to impose twisted versions of their religious beliefs on other people. That's what terrorists do.

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htpcl September 4 2015, 12:18:35 UTC
Kim Davis is like the terrorists - hmmm, if anything, I'm liking the passion in this sort of argument. And that warrants a DailyQuote!

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oportet September 4 2015, 11:57:43 UTC
Religiously, spiritually - I have no idea where I am at this point in life. I was raised Christian - with teachings overlapping from four different denominations. This isn't what I remember though.

I could've sworn Jesus mentioned something about loving everyone. I definitely don't recall this level of hate being around, but I was a kid/young adult - maybe I was just sheilded from things like that.

I'll still stick up for Christianity sometimes - whether I'm a true believer or not, because I believe (or have believed) the teachings can have a positive effect on one's life.

Being away from the church for so long though, I'm not sure if it's full of likeminded people, or if it really is based in hate now.

I would hope it is the former, but numbers are declining - so that points to it being the latter, or people like me (or eventually will) assume it's the latter.

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ddstory September 4 2015, 12:21:21 UTC
I also remember Jesus having gone as far as to use violence to make a point against the traders who had usurped the entrance to the sacred temple. And yet, nowadays I'm seeing all sorts of charlatans making lots of cash at the expense of the gullible pious folk, using their religious zeal for profit. And the traders are again at the entrance of all temples.

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htpcl September 4 2015, 12:26:24 UTC
This I can confirm. I've become somewhat maniacal lately about doing bike tours around our local cultural sights of interest, and many of them are Orthodox Christian monasteries. Well, you could find a whole shopping street in front of virtually every monastery around here. People are selling all sorts of stuff right at the doorsteps of the temple, using the opportunity that the large number of visitors provides them with. Case in point: this is right in front of the Bachkovo Monastery near my town, which I visited a couple of weeks ago:


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abomvubuso September 4 2015, 12:42:08 UTC
She's an elected official, so she can't be fired. But she can be jailed for contempt, or charged with dereliction of her official duties.

Some people are stubbornly insisting on continuing to misunderstand and/or overlook the separation of church and state. It's on them.

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