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takingmemos March 4 2008, 09:43:42 UTC

wish fulfilment, perhaps? people see what they want to see?

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I'm not hitting on you. just saying.

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sellseashelley March 4 2008, 22:05:42 UTC
Didn't think you were, but I get you. A lot of it's just people assuming based on the norms, you know? Like when a man and a woman at our age are living together, they're usually married, and it's not unusual for two single straight women to live together.

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takingmemos March 5 2008, 03:38:10 UTC

people really must stop with the assumptions. I generally only accept such information if people tell it to me right-out. taking info at face value makes it a bit easier to navigate the hideous morass that is social norms.

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sellseashelley March 5 2008, 04:13:06 UTC
Agreed. I'd go on about the evils of heterosexism, but you're probably not interested.

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takingmemos March 5 2008, 05:51:49 UTC

there may be a dire gap in my database of attitudes and knowledge regarding the evils of heterosexism. do go ahead. I could do with some more lecturing for the day, since Anne hasn't given me a berating yet.

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sellseashelley March 5 2008, 05:59:07 UTC
Heterosexism (in one of its definitions - people take it to mean all sorts of things) is a fancy word for "the assumption that everyone is heterosexual until proven otherwise."

Too bad they don't have a word for "the assumption that a male-female pair is together until proven otherwise."

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takingmemos March 5 2008, 06:25:08 UTC

right, don't hate me for saying this, but statistically speaking ... considering the percentiles, isn't it just more efficient probability-wise to assume heterosexuality? it's all in the numbers.

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sellseashelley March 5 2008, 06:38:28 UTC
That's the thing. The idea is there's more non-straights than you'd think.

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takingmemos March 5 2008, 06:41:43 UTC

like ninjas.

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sellseashelley March 5 2008, 06:42:53 UTC
Oh, yes. The queers are waiting in the shadows for the opportune moment...

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takingmemos March 5 2008, 06:44:30 UTC

and bam, they're out of the closet and surprising you because you could've sworn they were the toughest and manliest of men on the team.

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sellseashelley March 5 2008, 06:45:18 UTC
You've obviously never met a leatherman.

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takingmemos March 5 2008, 08:57:52 UTC

leatherwhat?

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sellseashelley March 5 2008, 19:43:59 UTC
Leather daddy. Macho macho man. Butch Bear.

Think of the "biker guy" from the Village People.

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takingmemos March 10 2008, 07:58:06 UTC

oh good god.

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sellseashelley March 10 2008, 18:33:09 UTC
Yeah, I know.

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