Seriously!? I have to hear this Atlas Shrugged bullshit again? I thought once it was parodied in a video game we would be done with it. Never has a self-aggrandizing rape fantasy self-justified so much to so many
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Then we are partially in agreement at least. Your argument seems to center around not wanting to be tricked into helping people who are just looking for a free ride. That's a different argument entirely than what you said before.
This comes down to reform on many levels. Throwing the money into education would simply be a different form of welfare then wouldn't it? I mean half the people I went to school with weren't even slightly interested in becoming productive members of society and that extended into college not just high school. A lot of my college classmates were only even there because mom and dad would pay for everything as long as they are enrolled.
There are tons of things that go into a true welfare reform. I want those things addressed and answers found. The answer is not now nor has it ever been "Fuck em." I hear constantly about how no body ever goes on welfare and then comes back from it. So here's my answer to that, my mom and I lived on food stamps for a my first year of highschool. She was a cop who got injured in the line of duty and fucked around through court dates and bullshit and surgeries for 2 years before any kind of settlement was reached. In the mean time bills kept pilling up. This was in the time alluded to when people say we currently have the highest unemployment in over a decade. In other words the unemployment rate was higher than now. At 15 I couldn't even get a job washing dishes somewhere. I looked, I offered to mow lawns, haul garbage even day labour for construction. Think I didn't try hard enough or mom didn't try hard enough? My response would be emotional to that one. So my mom finally got a job at a winn dixie. Eventually the economy picked up and a group of people I went to school with got together and we spent every penny we could scrounge plus a small loan from the rotary club to buy a Funnel Cake booth from a UStore it auction. So after roughly a year of my mom, the ex-cop who got hurt trying to help people, suffering from the derision of any asshole who saw her pay for groceries with monopoly money we managed to get back on our feet and we've never been there again. So if you think those programs only help welfare queens and slackers, I must respond as one of those people you are insulting and say fuck you. On the other if you think the system needs reform to make sure that the money is used responsibly then I agree totally. My mother went on to recieve a settlement that barely covered all of the medical and legal bills we had. She then attended college on a disability grant. The classes she took there were supposed to help her get a new job but were in effect worse than useless due to the complete retardation of the curriculum. Once she got her degree though she managed to get an excellent job on the merits of her abilities and intelligence so it worked out ok in the end.
This comes down to reform on many levels. Throwing the money into education would simply be a different form of welfare then wouldn't it? I mean half the people I went to school with weren't even slightly interested in becoming productive members of society and that extended into college not just high school. A lot of my college classmates were only even there because mom and dad would pay for everything as long as they are enrolled.
There are tons of things that go into a true welfare reform. I want those things addressed and answers found. The answer is not now nor has it ever been "Fuck em." I hear constantly about how no body ever goes on welfare and then comes back from it. So here's my answer to that, my mom and I lived on food stamps for a my first year of highschool. She was a cop who got injured in the line of duty and fucked around through court dates and bullshit and surgeries for 2 years before any kind of settlement was reached. In the mean time bills kept pilling up. This was in the time alluded to when people say we currently have the highest unemployment in over a decade. In other words the unemployment rate was higher than now. At 15 I couldn't even get a job washing dishes somewhere. I looked, I offered to mow lawns, haul garbage even day labour for construction. Think I didn't try hard enough or mom didn't try hard enough? My response would be emotional to that one. So my mom finally got a job at a winn dixie. Eventually the economy picked up and a group of people I went to school with got together and we spent every penny we could scrounge plus a small loan from the rotary club to buy a Funnel Cake booth from a UStore it auction. So after roughly a year of my mom, the ex-cop who got hurt trying to help people, suffering from the derision of any asshole who saw her pay for groceries with monopoly money we managed to get back on our feet and we've never been there again. So if you think those programs only help welfare queens and slackers, I must respond as one of those people you are insulting and say fuck you. On the other if you think the system needs reform to make sure that the money is used responsibly then I agree totally. My mother went on to recieve a settlement that barely covered all of the medical and legal bills we had. She then attended college on a disability grant. The classes she took there were supposed to help her get a new job but were in effect worse than useless due to the complete retardation of the curriculum. Once she got her degree though she managed to get an excellent job on the merits of her abilities and intelligence so it worked out ok in the end.
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