A Draw of Cards

Nov 21, 2006 03:39

I've always been interested in fortunetelling. No, I don't let it control my actions much. I just....like to see what the omens are like, okay?

So anyway, I did a tarot reading. A simple one, because I didn't have much time before I had to meet with Neji for sparring, but here are the results nonetheless.

O Fortune! Give or hold at your will/ ( Read more... )

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eightcircles November 21 2006, 04:04:19 UTC
To believe that you can predict the future is to believe in fate.

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sword_sdancer November 21 2006, 04:12:25 UTC
But I also believe that, being forewarned, I can change my future. Well?

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eightcircles November 21 2006, 04:13:51 UTC
You are still acting within the bounds of your fate.

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sword_sdancer November 21 2006, 04:19:12 UTC
So my fate is every possible outcome? Then what's the point?

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eightcircles November 21 2006, 04:25:02 UTC
It doesn't have to be a bad fate.

Also, your logic is flowed.

If there is no ultimate direction, then what is life's purpose, anyway? Especially since we are likely to die young? Why not just satisfy whatever we desire to do before we die, and then kill ourselves?

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sword_sdancer November 21 2006, 04:30:58 UTC
...Neji?

Who have you been talking to?

And the point of life is making our own paths - not going along one predetermined one. That IS the purpose. Not what it ends up as.

Suicide is the action of a weakling.

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eightcircles November 21 2006, 04:40:00 UTC
You. A few others. Not that psychotic clown, if that's what you're asking.

What's the point of making your own path if it is decided by you, a flawed human being? You will only die, and in the end, you might have accomplished nothing at all.

I agree with you on suicide. It was a rhetorical question, one made valid by your argument.

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sword_sdancer November 21 2006, 04:49:58 UTC
Because it IS my life! And yours! Mine to direct! If I make mistakes, then I make them, and learn from them. If I succeed, it's because of me and not because of fate.

And if we spend our lives only to die, then...then...

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eightcircles November 21 2006, 04:51:42 UTC
Then life is ultimately meaningless.

Do you understand why I... very nearly went insane earlier?

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sword_sdancer November 21 2006, 05:09:29 UTC
I thought it was the spiders, too.

Yes...I do, kind of - but I don't understand how you can still believe this! I know I could never convince you about that, but I thought Naruto, at least, kicked some sense into you.

If Fate was truly inexorable, then why do we havethe ability to make decisions? To agonize and think and dream about it? I say the mere act of reflection and reasoning about our lives is proof of our free will.

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eightcircles November 21 2006, 05:25:48 UTC
Tenten. I do not believe any of what I am saying. I am merely engaging in a debate.

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sword_sdancer November 21 2006, 08:37:25 UTC
You. You what.

I got all frightened and flustered and stupid over nothing.

...

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eightcircles November 21 2006, 15:37:43 UTC
It was a debate.

I tried to make that clear.

I do not believe that fate controls everything in the sense of a person "pulling the puppet's strings," but I do believe that there is an ultimate end, and even a purpose.

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sword_sdancer November 21 2006, 16:48:39 UTC
....Right. I must still be sleepy. No philosophical arguments for me when I can't even tell the difference between you arguing and you slipping back into pre-Naruto mode. I'ma toddle off to bed. Well, futon.

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