Asshole of the Day 11/20/12
Asshole of the Day 11/20/12
Source: YouTube
Method of Communication: Public comments left on one of my Letters to an Asexual videos
Type(s) of Fail: Asexuality fail, laughable attempts to pretend they "researched"
Result: Blocked
What you may need to know: So here we are with another conversation that starts with someone telling me my orientation is full of shit and then seeming shocked and appalled that I take issue with what they said and how they said it.
peachrocker1:
asexuality is a myth. sexual desire is inscribed in every animal whether it's a human or a dog or a tiger. in fact, i sometimes felt like i'm asexual until i met the right guy.
swankivy:
Asexuality is a sexual orientation. Your own experiences of finding out you're not asexual are irrelevant, as is your belief that sexuality works the same for every creature. You're very uninformed, and when you're ignorant on a topic, you shouldn't speak authoritatively to those who are not. If you can't understand this and aren't willing to broaden your understanding of the very diverse nature of human sexuality, I'm sorry, I can't help you.
Sometimes I think I'm getting very good at making a comprehensive point in the 500 characters YouTube allows me.
Not that it matters with people like peachrocker1.
peachrocker1:
Actually it's the lack of a sexual orientation since asexuals feel no sexual desire whatsoever, as you yourself claim. I'm not speaking authoritatively, I'm just stating my honest opinion. I believe it's a myth to feel absolutely no sexual desire, as it's in your DNA to be a sexual being. If it weren't, the human race would eventually die out. You clearly hate to be wrong or told otherwise, I've learned enough about biology and sexuality. Yet you doubt my credentials when you don't even know me.
This person, however, is a master at squeezing an amazing amount of fail into 500 characters. I'm almost impressed. "This is my opinion so you can't argue with it"-check. "If everyone was like you no one would reproduce, so no one must be like you"-check. Putting words in my mouth (wait, I "claimed" that asexuals feel "no sexual desire whatsoever"? Where?)-check. Making this about a personal attack on this person's "credentials" because I pointed out the mind-numbing ignorance in the previous comment-check.
Wow! You need a prize, peachrocker1.
My reply:
swankivy:
Anyone with biological science "credentials" is well aware of the concept of variants, and would never claim "because if everyone was like you the species would die out" proves asexual people are "myths." That would also apply to homosexual creatures, which appear in many species besides humans, and yet that variant has not caused any species to die out-nor do infertile or non-reproducing creatures become a myth simply by not reproducing. Also, sexual desire isn't the same as sexual attraction.
I should have known better than to start using actual scientific vocabulary, but peachrocker1 DID try to imply that I was wrong about their credentials and said that they "learned enough about sexuality and biology."
Therefore everyone wants sex because biology. Airtight, obviously.
peachrocker1:
NO I'm saying if there were so many the species would die out. Sexual attraction may not be equivalent to sexual desire but it's something asexuals don't have nonetheless, otherwise, they wouldn't be asexual.
Soooooo peachrocker1 has never read any articles about asexuality ever. What a jerk I must be to say doing zero research on a subject doesn't make one an authority on it because of opinions and stuff!
And yet I still didn't learn from my mistake above about not trying to talk Science to a person who is trying to use it against me in a laughably ignorant way.
swankivy:
You're not making much sense here. Surely you don't think homosexuality is perpetuated primarily by homosexual people giving birth to gay kids; they're coming out of mainly straight people. That's how variants work; they appear spontaneously in every generation because it's not necessarily a genetically linked trait. Therefore, asexuality isn't proved "a myth" by your weird misunderstanding of genetics. And no, an asexual person absolutely can have a sex drive. Please do some research.
Watch as peachrocker1 thoroughly misses the connection between what I've said about asexuality as a possible orientation being completely unrelated to reproduction (just like homosexuality) and stampedes on to accuse me of vomiting irrelevant anecdotes. (Oh, and assigns me a mental illness.)
peachrocker1:
I've never said any of this. you are delusional. do seek help. i said i think asexuality is bullshit as everyone has some sexual desire or if not, they ARE able to be aroused, hence I find asexuality to be a myth. i did plenty of research which keeps conveying the same thing: asexuals have no sex, no sex drive, no sexual arousal which I don't believe. if an asexual person has a sex drive, then he'she isn't asexual.
Why am I so upset anyway? All peachrocker1 is saying is that my orientation is bullshit and I don't exist! Why is this so objectionable! This is a totally solid opinion based on the "plenty of research" they did on asexuality, which mysteriously supports the opinion they carefully extracted from their asshole!
Bullshitting about having done research on a subject and coming to the opposite conclusion from what the research actually says tries my patience. So, I was done.
swankivy:
You argued that asexuality doesn't exist because "everyone" has a intrinsic drive to reproduce, which means you deny that variants (like gay folks and aces) whose sexual attraction tendencies don't lead directly to children can exist. As for your "research" on asexual people, what you've said is laughable. Read Bogaert or other respected sex researchers' work on asexuality and you will see that your conception of it is 100% incorrect. Nice try pretending you researched it, though. (Not really.)
I blocked peachrocker1 here. I'm sure they tried to reply, but I really don't care.
Really getting tired of your shit, people who incorrectly define asexuality and tell me we can't exist because if we did we'd have already died out because biology.
Source: YouTube
Method of Communication: Public comments left on one of my Letters to an Asexual videos
Type(s) of Fail: Asexuality fail, laughable attempts to pretend they "researched"
Result: Blocked
What you may need to know: So here we are with another conversation that starts with someone telling me my orientation is full of shit and then seeming shocked and appalled that I take issue with what they said and how they said it.
peachrocker1:
asexuality is a myth. sexual desire is inscribed in every animal whether it's a human or a dog or a tiger. in fact, i sometimes felt like i'm asexual until i met the right guy.
swankivy:
Asexuality is a sexual orientation. Your own experiences of finding out you're not asexual are irrelevant, as is your belief that sexuality works the same for every creature. You're very uninformed, and when you're ignorant on a topic, you shouldn't speak authoritatively to those who are not. If you can't understand this and aren't willing to broaden your understanding of the very diverse nature of human sexuality, I'm sorry, I can't help you.
Sometimes I think I'm getting very good at making a comprehensive point in the 500 characters YouTube allows me.
Not that it matters with people like peachrocker1.
peachrocker1:
Actually it's the lack of a sexual orientation since asexuals feel no sexual desire whatsoever, as you yourself claim. I'm not speaking authoritatively, I'm just stating my honest opinion. I believe it's a myth to feel absolutely no sexual desire, as it's in your DNA to be a sexual being. If it weren't, the human race would eventually die out. You clearly hate to be wrong or told otherwise, I've learned enough about biology and sexuality. Yet you doubt my credentials when you don't even know me.
This person, however, is a master at squeezing an amazing amount of fail into 500 characters. I'm almost impressed. "This is my opinion so you can't argue with it"-check. "If everyone was like you no one would reproduce, so no one must be like you"-check. Putting words in my mouth (wait, I "claimed" that asexuals feel "no sexual desire whatsoever"? Where?)-check. Making this about a personal attack on this person's "credentials" because I pointed out the mind-numbing ignorance in the previous comment-check.
Wow! You need a prize, peachrocker1.
My reply:
swankivy:
Anyone with biological science "credentials" is well aware of the concept of variants, and would never claim "because if everyone was like you the species would die out" proves asexual people are "myths." That would also apply to homosexual creatures, which appear in many species besides humans, and yet that variant has not caused any species to die out-nor do infertile or non-reproducing creatures become a myth simply by not reproducing. Also, sexual desire isn't the same as sexual attraction.
I should have known better than to start using actual scientific vocabulary, but peachrocker1 DID try to imply that I was wrong about their credentials and said that they "learned enough about sexuality and biology."
Therefore everyone wants sex because biology. Airtight, obviously.
peachrocker1:
NO I'm saying if there were so many the species would die out. Sexual attraction may not be equivalent to sexual desire but it's something asexuals don't have nonetheless, otherwise, they wouldn't be asexual.
Soooooo peachrocker1 has never read any articles about asexuality ever. What a jerk I must be to say doing zero research on a subject doesn't make one an authority on it because of opinions and stuff!
And yet I still didn't learn from my mistake above about not trying to talk Science to a person who is trying to use it against me in a laughably ignorant way.
swankivy:
You're not making much sense here. Surely you don't think homosexuality is perpetuated primarily by homosexual people giving birth to gay kids; they're coming out of mainly straight people. That's how variants work; they appear spontaneously in every generation because it's not necessarily a genetically linked trait. Therefore, asexuality isn't proved "a myth" by your weird misunderstanding of genetics. And no, an asexual person absolutely can have a sex drive. Please do some research.
Watch as peachrocker1 thoroughly misses the connection between what I've said about asexuality as a possible orientation being completely unrelated to reproduction (just like homosexuality) and stampedes on to accuse me of vomiting irrelevant anecdotes. (Oh, and assigns me a mental illness.)
peachrocker1:
I've never said any of this. you are delusional. do seek help. i said i think asexuality is bullshit as everyone has some sexual desire or if not, they ARE able to be aroused, hence I find asexuality to be a myth. i did plenty of research which keeps conveying the same thing: asexuals have no sex, no sex drive, no sexual arousal which I don't believe. if an asexual person has a sex drive, then he'she isn't asexual.
Why am I so upset anyway? All peachrocker1 is saying is that my orientation is bullshit and I don't exist! Why is this so objectionable! This is a totally solid opinion based on the "plenty of research" they did on asexuality, which mysteriously supports the opinion they carefully extracted from their asshole!
Bullshitting about having done research on a subject and coming to the opposite conclusion from what the research actually says tries my patience. So, I was done.
swankivy:
You argued that asexuality doesn't exist because "everyone" has a intrinsic drive to reproduce, which means you deny that variants (like gay folks and aces) whose sexual attraction tendencies don't lead directly to children can exist. As for your "research" on asexual people, what you've said is laughable. Read Bogaert or other respected sex researchers' work on asexuality and you will see that your conception of it is 100% incorrect. Nice try pretending you researched it, though. (Not really.)
I blocked peachrocker1 here. I'm sure they tried to reply, but I really don't care.
Really getting tired of your shit, people who incorrectly define asexuality and tell me we can't exist because if we did we'd have already died out because biology.