And the cut that your have been dicribing is rather harsh
I'm not describing any cut - just stating the player who have played regularly for us this season who will also be playing next season. (By regularly, I meant 30+, but we only had 3 players (Frings, Marin, Mertesacker) who did that, so I also included players with 29 (Wiese and Fritz - though not Hunt, because so many of his were substitutions). This stat is in itself a worry, compared with Dortmund who had 11 players with 30+ appearances, because we just don't have the squad depth to rotate á-la Bayern, and adds further to the instability factor.)
Okay, so we assume Marin's safe. And we hang on to Merte by making him captain, but what about Fritz? He's had a better season than Per, and is also in that ~time of life~ where he's going to be wanting more...and deserves more imo, so why's Per getting to be captain? And then Wiese? He's said he wants to stay, but I imagine if there's not evidence that the next season won't be like the last, there'll come a point where he has to reconsider his commitment. (Plus, how many more seasons can we hang onto both Wiese and Mielitz anyway?)
I don't think he has a stellar career lying AHEAD of him - that is more in the past and it is something to be sad about, unarguably, but it is also a biological necessity in a way. You can't deny his deficiencies and it seems like he is doing exactly that. It is more of a stubborn ego thing, it seems, which very much fits the Frings as we know him - and my take is that KATS told him the truth - for they knew he is not one for being substituted - I mean that much we can infer from his interviews and his presence at Werder. So how else to solve the dilemma? If they would have awarded him with a slimmed-down contract, it would have not worked. Frings sounded disappointed in that interview - and hurt - but he did not explode or pulled a Diego. So deep down inside, he must have understood the signs.
I'm not sure it matters whether he has a stellar career lying ahead of him, if he wants to play, he should still play. At whatever level, for whatever reward (though apparently he isn't, and that's okay too). It was great to see Hamann still playing at MK Dons this season, you know, a shit club, but doing it because he likes football and likes playing football. There's no need for footballers to retire altogether just because they're not what they once were, imo.
I also think the assumption that Frings wouldn't be willing to take a step-back and fulfil a lesser role is only an assumption (and as I've said, like with the money thing, I'm not sure as fans we collectively know him and how he'll react as well as we think we do). Maybe he would have been willing to take a lesser role for the benefit of the team. (Not that I think he necessarily should have been given one, and that a clean break might prove better. But it still seems like selling him short to say he couldn't possibly have coped with that sort of situation.)
Incidentally, are we talking about the same interview? I meant this one from yesterday: http://www.radiobremen.de/mediathek/video25432-popup.html Because I would have said his attitude seemed kinda the opposite of "disappointed, but understood the signs" as you've put it, and more "accepting, but somehow still thinks it's about the money even though it's not about the money"... (Incidentally, I think that puts a dampener on the theory that KATS "told him the truth", I'm imagining more along the lines of "I'm afraid we don't have the money to offer you a new contract." "But I don't want any money." "...We don't have the money." "I don't want any money." *jedi-hand-trick from Allofs* "Oh, so you don't have the money? Never mind then.")
seems Kreiszeitung have replaced their "Frings will retire from playing" article with a "I want to still play!!" interview. So forget my "apparently he isn't" comment.
...Tbh, it's getting confusing, so I may just avoid thinking about all this until like August...unless Hamann can lure him to join him at Leicester City as he says he wants to play in abroad...I mean, idk if they're friends or anything, but Didi was being all nice about him on the telly recently, so maybe not completely ridic as an idea...
That would be awfully nice :) Yeah, I get confused too.
I was hoping for Chicago ;) (Please not RB New York).
So as it looks coach classes are up next year ( I am sure Frings wants to prepare properly for that, maybe learn how to type on a keyboard properly and dust off some books on soccer theory before starting the next step.
Just read his new interview and together with the latest news of re-signing Pasanen I am kinda lost. Also 13 players from WBII are leaving.
The game in Salzgitter yesterday was fun! Small, old-fashioned stadium tons of kids and Frings and Wiese pulled some jokes on them too. Will write on that later tonite and I also got like a ton of autographs on my scarf - it kinda happened... *braggs*
Bargy was awfully nice. And super-concentrated when signing. He told me about his injury as well as Vander.
I'm not describing any cut - just stating the player who have played regularly for us this season who will also be playing next season. (By regularly, I meant 30+, but we only had 3 players (Frings, Marin, Mertesacker) who did that, so I also included players with 29 (Wiese and Fritz - though not Hunt, because so many of his were substitutions). This stat is in itself a worry, compared with Dortmund who had 11 players with 30+ appearances, because we just don't have the squad depth to rotate á-la Bayern, and adds further to the instability factor.)
Okay, so we assume Marin's safe. And we hang on to Merte by making him captain, but what about Fritz? He's had a better season than Per, and is also in that ~time of life~ where he's going to be wanting more...and deserves more imo, so why's Per getting to be captain? And then Wiese? He's said he wants to stay, but I imagine if there's not evidence that the next season won't be like the last, there'll come a point where he has to reconsider his commitment. (Plus, how many more seasons can we hang onto both Wiese and Mielitz anyway?)
I don't think he has a stellar career lying AHEAD of him - that is more in the past and it is something to be sad about, unarguably, but it is also a biological necessity in a way. You can't deny his deficiencies and it seems like he is doing exactly that. It is more of a stubborn ego thing, it seems, which very much fits the Frings as we know him - and my take is that KATS told him the truth - for they knew he is not one for being substituted - I mean that much we can infer from his interviews and his presence at Werder. So how else to solve the dilemma? If they would have awarded him with a slimmed-down contract, it would have not worked. Frings sounded disappointed in that interview - and hurt - but he did not explode or pulled a Diego. So deep down inside, he must have understood the signs.
I'm not sure it matters whether he has a stellar career lying ahead of him, if he wants to play, he should still play. At whatever level, for whatever reward (though apparently he isn't, and that's okay too). It was great to see Hamann still playing at MK Dons this season, you know, a shit club, but doing it because he likes football and likes playing football. There's no need for footballers to retire altogether just because they're not what they once were, imo.
I also think the assumption that Frings wouldn't be willing to take a step-back and fulfil a lesser role is only an assumption (and as I've said, like with the money thing, I'm not sure as fans we collectively know him and how he'll react as well as we think we do). Maybe he would have been willing to take a lesser role for the benefit of the team. (Not that I think he necessarily should have been given one, and that a clean break might prove better. But it still seems like selling him short to say he couldn't possibly have coped with that sort of situation.)
Incidentally, are we talking about the same interview? I meant this one from yesterday: http://www.radiobremen.de/mediathek/video25432-popup.html
Because I would have said his attitude seemed kinda the opposite of "disappointed, but understood the signs" as you've put it, and more "accepting, but somehow still thinks it's about the money even though it's not about the money"... (Incidentally, I think that puts a dampener on the theory that KATS "told him the truth", I'm imagining more along the lines of "I'm afraid we don't have the money to offer you a new contract." "But I don't want any money." "...We don't have the money." "I don't want any money." *jedi-hand-trick from Allofs* "Oh, so you don't have the money? Never mind then.")
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...Tbh, it's getting confusing, so I may just avoid thinking about all this until like August...unless Hamann can lure him to join him at Leicester City as he says he wants to play in abroad...I mean, idk if they're friends or anything, but Didi was being all nice about him on the telly recently, so maybe not completely ridic as an idea...
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I was hoping for Chicago ;) (Please not RB New York).
So as it looks coach classes are up next year ( I am sure Frings wants to prepare properly for that, maybe learn how to type on a keyboard properly and dust off some books on soccer theory before starting the next step.
Just read his new interview and together with the latest news of re-signing Pasanen I am kinda lost. Also 13 players from WBII are leaving.
The game in Salzgitter yesterday was fun! Small, old-fashioned stadium tons of kids and Frings and Wiese pulled some jokes on them too. Will write on that later tonite and I also got like a ton of autographs on my scarf - it kinda happened... *braggs*
Bargy was awfully nice. And super-concentrated when signing. He told me about his injury as well as Vander.
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