As for your list of plusses on the Frings grading report -- well, I think this team together has played below par and the few goals he scored where crucial, undeniably (for simply there were so few ;)) but how about we compare sahin with frings... It would show exactly the difference between a modern sixer and Frings. However, they share their weakness of converting penalties -- in fact Sahin wins this with 4 missed penalties ;)
I think this season will be xtremely crucial to the fututre of WB as we know it - allofs takes the exit the very last moment now and is on a risky cruise. We do need stability more than anything else - simply throwning a bunch of new players in the mix will offend the current one's (Hunt and Bargy as well as Prödl and maybe also Fritz) and does not make a stable construct on pitch. So much will depend on Schaaf to actually form a competetive team. I believe much of this harshness and parting business could have been avoided with better transfers -- though I do admire KATS' daringness to claim that Hunt or Marin could become playmakers -- I was willing to go with them - especially Hunt showed some promising signs - but after those losses to 96/Mainz etc I think just about evryone knew that this was not going to happen. Coaches job is to gamble and there is a lot of suggestion and make-believe going on when motivating players and talking them strong. But once reality hits you hard, managers should acknowledge that and react. However, the transfer sitaution during the winter break is always rather unfortunate -- only hajnal maybe would have been an available option at that time, but Stuttgart was faster. And Ekici had to finsih his Abitur first so they gambled and waited a little longer. I get that.
As for your list of plusses on the Frings grading report -- well, I think this team together has played below par and the few goals he scored where crucial, undeniably (for simply there were so few ;))
Exactly. He scored the same number of BL-goals this season as last season, but that was enough to boost him from 5th to 3rd, just because no one else is doing better. It's the no one else doing better that's the problem as I see it, not Frings plodding along. And it's the same with the other things on that list - he was taking corners because no one else was doing them productively (Marin, Hunt), he was scoring crucial goals because no one else had already sorted the match. ...So now who's going to do all the things that Frings was only doing because other people on the team couldn't or just weren't doing them? (I'm not saying this in a rhetorical "omg, how will we function without him??"-way, but in a literal sense of who's going to be picking up the slack now?)
And it'd be lovely to compare Sahin with Frings, but we don't have Sahin. Nor do we have a Messi to compare with our Markos. Whilst I think it's all very well to identify a player's faults and how they could be better, looking at random other players who we could never sign and saying "oh, if only he were like that" doesn't seem very productive. (I'm also not sure that comparing Werder player A and Dortmund player B for any equivalent position this season is entirely fair either...really, we can spend all day going "lol, Wiese conceded 3 times as many goals as Weidenfeller", but it's always easier to look good when you've got 10 other awesome guys on the pitch with you, and doesn't tell you a lot about the merits of their comparative styles.)
Coaches job is to gamble
I disagree. The coach's job is to form a team that can bring good results. Gambling is often part of that because they have to take chances, but if they gamble and get it wrong, then they're doing their job badly (and it's not right to fling the blame for that at the players). Additionally, there's a difference between gambling and being reckless, and you have to assume from KATS reaction to how things went down this season that not a lot of thought was given to "okay, but what if this doesn't work?".
As for your list of plusses on the Frings grading report -- well, I think this team together has played below par and the few goals he scored where crucial, undeniably (for simply there were so few ;)) but how about we compare sahin with frings... It would show exactly the difference between a modern sixer and Frings. However, they share their weakness of converting penalties -- in fact Sahin wins this with 4 missed penalties ;)
I think this season will be xtremely crucial to the fututre of WB as we know it - allofs takes the exit the very last moment now and is on a risky cruise. We do need stability more than anything else - simply throwning a bunch of new players in the mix will offend the current one's (Hunt and Bargy as well as Prödl and maybe also Fritz) and does not make a stable construct on pitch. So much will depend on Schaaf to actually form a competetive team. I believe much of this harshness and parting business could have been avoided with better transfers -- though I do admire KATS' daringness to claim that Hunt or Marin could become playmakers -- I was willing to go with them - especially Hunt showed some promising signs - but after those losses to 96/Mainz etc I think just about evryone knew that this was not going to happen. Coaches job is to gamble and there is a lot of suggestion and make-believe going on when motivating players and talking them strong. But once reality hits you hard, managers should acknowledge that and react. However, the transfer sitaution during the winter break is always rather unfortunate -- only hajnal maybe would have been an available option at that time, but Stuttgart was faster. And Ekici had to finsih his Abitur first so they gambled and waited a little longer. I get that.
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Exactly. He scored the same number of BL-goals this season as last season, but that was enough to boost him from 5th to 3rd, just because no one else is doing better. It's the no one else doing better that's the problem as I see it, not Frings plodding along. And it's the same with the other things on that list - he was taking corners because no one else was doing them productively (Marin, Hunt), he was scoring crucial goals because no one else had already sorted the match. ...So now who's going to do all the things that Frings was only doing because other people on the team couldn't or just weren't doing them? (I'm not saying this in a rhetorical "omg, how will we function without him??"-way, but in a literal sense of who's going to be picking up the slack now?)
And it'd be lovely to compare Sahin with Frings, but we don't have Sahin. Nor do we have a Messi to compare with our Markos. Whilst I think it's all very well to identify a player's faults and how they could be better, looking at random other players who we could never sign and saying "oh, if only he were like that" doesn't seem very productive. (I'm also not sure that comparing Werder player A and Dortmund player B for any equivalent position this season is entirely fair either...really, we can spend all day going "lol, Wiese conceded 3 times as many goals as Weidenfeller", but it's always easier to look good when you've got 10 other awesome guys on the pitch with you, and doesn't tell you a lot about the merits of their comparative styles.)
Coaches job is to gamble
I disagree. The coach's job is to form a team that can bring good results. Gambling is often part of that because they have to take chances, but if they gamble and get it wrong, then they're doing their job badly (and it's not right to fling the blame for that at the players). Additionally, there's a difference between gambling and being reckless, and you have to assume from KATS reaction to how things went down this season that not a lot of thought was given to "okay, but what if this doesn't work?".
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