I held out for so long on TVD, mostly because it's a vampire show and they are really not my thing. It was catteo who got me started (because she was writing all this fic AND I NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO READ IT, OKAY?). Once I started, I blew through the first 2.5 seasons in about 3 weeks.
Does this pattern of behaviour remind you of anything? No? Never mind then.
The first two seasons are pretty fab, the third is... not as fab. It's still compelling and all, but the WHO WILL ELENA CHOOOOOOOOOSE thing gets dialled up to eleven, and, as someone who honestly couldn't give a crap*, I found that kind of tedious. There's a lot of fan-pandering going on too, which I have problems with.
* That said, character-wise I find Damon a lot more interesting than Stefan. Stefan became more interesting to me in the first half of season 3, but then the writers undid almost all that I found interesting about him. Sigh.
Oh, and ugh. I think that anyone who ships any pairing where one of the characters is human and one is a vampire, does not get bitch and whine and moan about an "abusive" relationship on another show whose characters, while human, ARE EQUALLY FICTITIOUS. *ahem*
About Stefan's derailment, season 3 felt like it was written by two different people. I think when Kevin Williamson left to work on The Secret Circle, he left notes for the first half of season 3 with Julie Plec. And the first half felt like it connected with seasons 1 and 2. Then she had to work without a safety net, and it collapsed in on itself. I watched up until the 1920 episode, then I had to turn away.
OH boy. It always feels a little off when a show switches writers. Then it becomes not so much a part of a master plan as a part of two different plans that do not mesh. Sigh.
Yeah, I think you have a point. I also think that JP is altogether a bit too set on keeping both camps of shippers happy, so I feel like the writers kind of short-changed Stefan's character to get him to where they needed him to be for Elena to make THE CHOICE by season's end.
(Man, it is hard to discuss this without spoiling major stuff for surreallis!)
I am, indeed, the sneakiest at converting people. I have been most gratified to see the number of posts on RB 301 that mention the lack of Luke/Gail and how jarring it was. Things like this make me feel that our work has not been in vain!
Hahaha, yes! I resisted because vampires are not my thing, even though horror is, and I didn't really find the two guys attractive in any way, and clearly they dominate the show. But it's entertaining enough! And I feel pretty full up on ships right now, so I don't feel like I'll care much about who she chooses either. (Although, I know already.)
Oh, and ugh. I think that anyone who ships any pairing where one of the characters is human and one is a vampire, does not get bitch and whine and moan about an "abusive" relationship on another show whose characters, while human, ARE EQUALLY FICTITIOUS.
UGH, YES. Also, using real life abuse victims' stories as fodder for your FICTIONAL SHIP? NOT OKAY. I think it's dying down a bit now. I haven't seen as much arguing about it lately. I've seen a lot of 'well, if the show is going to be SO OOC with Dan/Blair, then I'm not watching anymore!' And all I can think of to answer to that is: "That is a perfectly acceptable solution. Bye!" Which is sort of snarky, so whatever.
I didn't really find the two guys attractive in any way, and clearly they dominate the show.
Well, they kind of do and they kind of don't. I mean, we are clearly supposed to think that they're the hottest things since pop tarts or something, but if they dominate it's more in terms of their characters, and how they relate to each other (and to Elena and to Katherine). Have you met Katherine in flashbacks yet? Nina Dobrev (who plays them both) is a freaking genius.
(For the record, I don't find either of them that attractive either. I find Stefan very unattractive physically (and character-wise he reminds me of Dan Humphrey a lot of the time, and you know how I feel about him...), and I've always thought that Ian Somerholder (Damon) is kind of like a caricature of a good-looking person - like he's so good-looking he went right through and came out the other side just looking weird. Too pretty for my taste, basically.)
The thing I loved (and still love) about the first season was how quickly everything moved. I mean, sometimes there are gaping plot holes, but everything moves so quickly you almost don't care. The pacing is kind of fantastic, and the first season covers more ground than 3 seasons of any other show I've ever seen. In terms of both plot and characterisation. I think that's why I'm so disappointed with season 3 - it's not that it's bad, it just lacks the momentum of the first two seasons.
I don't ship anything on the show (well, I did, but it was kind of a crack!ship and it's impossible now for REASONS), and it's the happiest way to watch the show, for sure.
CAN YOU TELL THAT I'M EXCITED THAT YOU'VE GIVEN IN TO TEMPTATION AND STARTED WATCHING THIS? CAN YOU?
I held out for so long on TVD, mostly because it's a vampire show and they are really not my thing. It was catteo who got me started (because she was writing all this fic AND I NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO READ IT, OKAY?). Once I started, I blew through the first 2.5 seasons in about 3 weeks.
Does this pattern of behaviour remind you of anything? No? Never mind then.
The first two seasons are pretty fab, the third is... not as fab. It's still compelling and all, but the WHO WILL ELENA CHOOOOOOOOOSE thing gets dialled up to eleven, and, as someone who honestly couldn't give a crap*, I found that kind of tedious. There's a lot of fan-pandering going on too, which I have problems with.
* That said, character-wise I find Damon a lot more interesting than Stefan. Stefan became more interesting to me in the first half of season 3, but then the writers undid almost all that I found interesting about him. Sigh.
Oh, and ugh. I think that anyone who ships any pairing where one of the characters is human and one is a vampire, does not get bitch and whine and moan about an "abusive" relationship on another show whose characters, while human, ARE EQUALLY FICTITIOUS. *ahem*
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Oh, and ugh. I think that anyone who ships any pairing where one of the characters is human and one is a vampire, does not get bitch and whine and moan about an "abusive" relationship on another show whose characters, while human, ARE EQUALLY FICTITIOUS.
UGH, YES. Also, using real life abuse victims' stories as fodder for your FICTIONAL SHIP? NOT OKAY. I think it's dying down a bit now. I haven't seen as much arguing about it lately. I've seen a lot of 'well, if the show is going to be SO OOC with Dan/Blair, then I'm not watching anymore!' And all I can think of to answer to that is: "That is a perfectly acceptable solution. Bye!" Which is sort of snarky, so whatever.
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Well, they kind of do and they kind of don't. I mean, we are clearly supposed to think that they're the hottest things since pop tarts or something, but if they dominate it's more in terms of their characters, and how they relate to each other (and to Elena and to Katherine). Have you met Katherine in flashbacks yet? Nina Dobrev (who plays them both) is a freaking genius.
(For the record, I don't find either of them that attractive either. I find Stefan very unattractive physically (and character-wise he reminds me of Dan Humphrey a lot of the time, and you know how I feel about him...), and I've always thought that Ian Somerholder (Damon) is kind of like a caricature of a good-looking person - like he's so good-looking he went right through and came out the other side just looking weird. Too pretty for my taste, basically.)
The thing I loved (and still love) about the first season was how quickly everything moved. I mean, sometimes there are gaping plot holes, but everything moves so quickly you almost don't care. The pacing is kind of fantastic, and the first season covers more ground than 3 seasons of any other show I've ever seen. In terms of both plot and characterisation. I think that's why I'm so disappointed with season 3 - it's not that it's bad, it just lacks the momentum of the first two seasons.
I don't ship anything on the show (well, I did, but it was kind of a crack!ship and it's impossible now for REASONS), and it's the happiest way to watch the show, for sure.
CAN YOU TELL THAT I'M EXCITED THAT YOU'VE GIVEN IN TO TEMPTATION AND STARTED WATCHING THIS? CAN YOU?
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