Why are people so goddamned irritating?
I posted my B-12 article on veganpeople and got a lot of idiot responses as I should have expected. Only one person actually read it and the rest commented without a fucking clue. One of the uninformed comments came from Crow and is as follows:
"B12 comes neither from plant or animal sources - it comes from bacteria.
You can get increased amounts in your diet by not washing your hands before you eat, and all sorts of ways. It doesn't seem there's any 100% reliable way of getting it, yet people have been surviving fine for countless thousands of years without supplements.
I generally do not worry about it, and do not agree with supplements - better is to fix your diet. Simply being vegan isn't and end all be all to good and balanced dietary practice. Sadly I've met many vegans who eat tons of junk food and overprocessed/overrefinned packaged stuff and little else, and this doesn't work well.
But if you want to be sure of getting more B12, check out nutritional yeast. Again, this is an area where there is not absolute certainty, but some particular brands consistently have a higher B12 measurement.
"One brand of nutritional yeast, Red Star T-6635+, has been tested and shown to contain active vitamin B12. This brand of yeast is often labeled as Vegetarian Support Formula with or without T-6635+ in parentheses following this new name. It is a reliable source of vitamin B12."
I personally don't use this product because it's not organic, but I do enjoy organic nutritional yeast as a condiment on many things. And I don't really have any concern about washing my hands. :P"
He clearly did not read my post or he would not have said what he said. Furthermore, he claims that he does not take supplements. But wait....
Also notice that Crow does not wash his hands. Good thing I do not have to eat at his house.
And there is more: the real kicker is when you put this LJ comment together with an entry from his personal journal that describes a recent incident in which he bought and ate shrimp with no apology because he is "amoral." What a load of shit. It is a cop out so that he never has to answer to his behaviour. Quite hypocritical, if you ask me. I guess you don't need supplements if you are just going to eat meat anyway!
"B12 comes neither from plant or animal sources - it comes from bacteria.
You can get increased amounts in your diet by not washing your hands before you eat, and all sorts of ways. It doesn't seem there's any 100% reliable way of getting it, yet people have been surviving fine for countless thousands of years without supplements.
I generally do not worry about it, and do not agree with supplements - better is to fix your diet. Simply being vegan isn't and end all be all to good and balanced dietary practice. Sadly I've met many vegans who eat tons of junk food and overprocessed/overrefinned packaged stuff and little else, and this doesn't work well.
But if you want to be sure of getting more B12, check out nutritional yeast. Again, this is an area where there is not absolute certainty, but some particular brands consistently have a higher B12 measurement.
"One brand of nutritional yeast, Red Star T-6635+, has been tested and shown to contain active vitamin B12. This brand of yeast is often labeled as Vegetarian Support Formula with or without T-6635+ in parentheses following this new name. It is a reliable source of vitamin B12."
I personally don't use this product because it's not organic, but I do enjoy organic nutritional yeast as a condiment on many things. And I don't really have any concern about washing my hands. :P"
He clearly did not read my post or he would not have said what he said. Furthermore, he claims that he does not take supplements. But wait....
Also notice that Crow does not wash his hands. Good thing I do not have to eat at his house.
And there is more: the real kicker is when you put this LJ comment together with an entry from his personal journal that describes a recent incident in which he bought and ate shrimp with no apology because he is "amoral." What a load of shit. It is a cop out so that he never has to answer to his behaviour. Quite hypocritical, if you ask me. I guess you don't need supplements if you are just going to eat meat anyway!