I don't understand...

[superquarky]

Okay, so first off y'all know I'm not into politics and all that garble. So if this sounds like I'm a complete idiot, then know that I most likely am. Well, not a general-idiot, just an politics-idiot. I've just been rolling this idea around in my head for the past couple of days and I need to ask others what's up

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[gnea]

You know, the media likes to make it sound as if money isn't flowing, but the fact is, money flows quite well everyday, all over the country and the world. Nothing is stopping it. If you that's what you believe, then I have to ask you: what crack are you smoking and where can I get some?

The fact of the matter is, in the past decade, since the spark was ignited for the War in Iraq, more and more business has been taken online to places such as eBay, where anyone with an account can buy and sell whatever they want, tax-free. The only ones that bother with taxes are the brick & mortar stores who use it as an investment approach, so they need to register to get a tax-id so that any in-state commerce that they generate gets taxed. Now, in the next couple of years, eBay will be handing out 1099's to any seller who makes more than $10k a year (I've seen it reported as $20k as well, so please take that with a grain of salt.).

Just because the regulation has been poor doesn't mean that the money has stopped flowing. I suggest a class in micro or macro economics in order to prove the point. Of course, that will cost money, so your theory would apply quite well. :)

[sleepyj910]

There are thousands of businesses that currently can not expand because the banks refuse to lend, since they have no capitol.

Obviously money always flows to some degree, since anyone who still has a job or buys anything is part of that.

[gnea]

Right. And they are not going to lend to anyone who isn't qualified for the money.

The problem is that the lenders and banks started handing out loans to anyone who 'seemed' to be qualified. IOW, they lent it out to people who faked their way into the system.

There's this belief that all people should be able to have enought money to get by on, regardless of what their real intentions in life are.

The fact of the matter is, if someone doesn't have what it takes to properly budget their money out for years to come (some call it an 'education'), and if they fraudulently acquire a loan, then the probability that they default on their mortgage/car/whatever loan is 90+%.

People who buy and sell everyday items are just that, and it is a completely market from those who deal in loans.

[gnea]

It'd sure be nice if I could edit my own posts here...

People who buy and sell everyday items are just that, and it is a completely market from those who deal in loans.

This should actually read:

People who buy and sell everyday items are doing just that: buying and selling items everyday, and it is a completely different market from those who deal in loans.

[superquarky]

Right. So I'd like to get a job and save more after I become debt-free. Yeah. I know I already don't help the economy cause I read the manga at the bookstore then put it back. I only buy the ones that I will read over and over, like Fruits Basket. I love that story. It's my favorite.

[gnea]

You know, people who go out of their way to say that you don't help the economy by not buying something that you don't want to buy are some real jackasses. For real, they are not the kind of people that I would bother wasting my time with.

We all have the right to choose for ourselves, and anyone that tries to push us to make our own choices like that.. need to be ignored. They know they're pushers, but it's a disguise for being a bully, I guarantee it. They never got past that point in their life where they should go "hmmm, gee, people don't like it when I do that, so maybe I shouldn't do that." and instead do one of these numbers: "Hmmm, sooo, I can manipulate people by doing that, but only subtly...hrm hrm hrm...". They don't REALLY outgrow it, they just keep it locked down inside of them. The only thing I have to say about that is: that's some fucked up shit, because they fall into a mode of thought where life becomes a one-way street to them, not a two-way street.

Which reminds me, I've got a stack of DVDs that I've bought and half of them I don't even watch anymore. I'll make a list and you tell me if there's any you want. :)

[superquarky]

I have no idea where that whole tyraid came from. No one said anything to me about not helping the economy. I just feel that way on my own. Crimony. You're making mountains out of molehills again, or even less...like invisible molehills. I'll bet you could use a tall glass of cold sweet tea. Yeah, that'll do the job. ^_^

I'm pretty stocked on romantic comedies, and Taras has a ton of dvds too. Gimmie a list tho and I'll letcha know. Hell, I could send you a bunch I don't even want too!