How to Ruin a Ship

[sunnyskywalker]

First, I have not been able to get to my parents' house and watch the BSG they've been recording for me, so I haven't seen anything after "A Day in the Life." *is sad, but taking consolation in the fact that that means will be able to watch multiple episodes at once later

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[baleanoptera]

I think you've summed up nicely a lot of my feelings, and problems, with the relationships this season. I mean, I used to LIKE Dee! I thought she was great. I used to LOVE Kara - now....well, I'm trying to be indifferent because otherwise I would get to angry.

Make one character structurally subordinate to the other

This is perhaps one of my biggest pet peeves of all time. I think this is one of the reasons I loved "Firefly" was that the Wash/Zoe relationship managed to sidetrack that, all while still being a vital, believable relationship.

See: Lee in "Black Market."

Or not. ;D As it is the episode that-makes-no-sense. *g*

[sunnyskywalker]

I used to like Dee too, rudeness to strangers and all. (It made her complicated! Which was good!) I even used to like Cally, but now I can hardly stand to see her.

Wash/Zoe is awesome. I especially loved how they addressed in "War Stories" that yes, Zoe has another important relationship with a male in her life, one with whom she has a lot of history, and that's okay. It's completely understandable how Wash could feel threatened by that, but I think it also showed how he realized he didn't have to be convincingly. I love that episode.

"Black Market" does have one big redeeming feature: you can skip it and not miss anything :D

[baleanoptera]

I used to like Dee too, rudeness to strangers and all. (It made her complicated! Which was good!)

Oh yes! And I really liked Kara, with all her problems. Then somewhere along the characters stopped making much sense, and for a show so character driven as BSG that was really damaging. There are parts of S3 that works of course, but it can hardly stand up to how great it was in S1.

And I agree about Cally. She was sweet and interesting - and now I get annoyed every time she shows up.

"War Stories" is a great episode, and you're sentiments pretty much match mine there. I also love how Mal is just interested in Zoe like a friend- and there is no great love triangle setting the order of the day.

[sunnyskywalker]

Yes. It is so wonderful to have a male/female friendship that doesn't lead to a love triangle. They have the worries about it, confront the worries, and then quit worrying and move on.

I think S3 has gotten lost, kind of like S2 did in the middle for a while. I'm glad S4 is going to be a 13-episode season - it should be much more tightly written, without all these OOC digressions and filler episodes.

[fictualities]

I'm a little less bothered when people act like idiots about sex because, well, people do act like complete idiots about sex. But I agree 100% with everything you say here about having the Triangles and Quadrangles and Pentacles and what-not take over the show to the exclusion of other concerns. That kind of focus of the love plots in a show like BSG seems to me just as unrealistic as a love plot where normally frakked-up characters start to act like perfect human beings. I mean, given the situation these characters are in, anything relationship oriented is going to take place when they have time, which will be in ten-minute intervals here and there

[sunnyskywalker]

Yes. Why is it that the Cylons don't attack when the entire crew of the CIC is down boxing? Because they want Lee and Kara to work out their issues? I don't think so. That episode drove me crazy because of that issue. I'm also sick of seeing the characters only in those ten minutes when they have time - I want to see the other things they're doing! That was one thing I did like about "A Day in the Life," despite its flaws: at least it showed Tyrol and Cally having to work and being stressed about it.