Irene Adler aka you're doing it wrong

May 10, 2012 23:57



Who wants to play a game? It’s called Who Would Make A Better Irene Adler Than Irene Adler?

I guess I have to confess the truth: I hate Irene Adler from Sherlock. There are many reasons to hate Irene Adler. Sexist depiction, canon derailment, getting in the way of the fan-preferred OTP…but these are not the reasons I hate Irene Adler. No, I despise ( Read more... )

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Re: Quite perplexing ext_1277258 July 12 2012, 17:23:55 UTC
Thank you Sundae for taking the time to reply to my message on your thread about Irene Adler, you have very salient points on the issue and about Stephen Moffat's writing in general. Your critique of Irene Adler was very good about why we shouldn't symapthize with this cold, arrogant, aloof woman who would sell out her country to a sociopath like Moriarity for a fortune, but her feelings for Sherlock and her the vulnerability she shows to him are meant to garner it. It's not the best work of Moffat but i understood it was his attempt to show the best Sherlock could do at being in love, someone who was his equal.

As for Moffat himself, i understand that he's not untouchable, not all of the Moff's work is the best and yes he is worthy of being taking to task for his weaknesses, which are not always fully formed female characters. However i do think he gets it right probably 80 to 90 percent of the time, there's a reason why RTD had full confidence when ever Moffat wrote a DH script, no oversight needed whatsoever. I think the Tin Tin film copped him alot of flack and this episode also got him sprayed in the Daily Mail or whatever. I dont agree with woman who wrote the piece blasting Moffat, but i understand why his female characters can be construed as sexist or caricatures. His responses to tell people their wrong probably wont help endear him to people but i also get he's defending the validity of his work and if feels someone's offbase about it, he'll say it.

I'm a fan but i certainly dont just blindly like a writer regardless of their faults, but i also have confidence the quality of their work will outweight their misfires. Like with Joss Whedon, David Benioff and Dan Weiss or Alan Ball, great writers but all with their faults and reasons to criticise them for it despite being respected and revered names in Nerd culture.

Thank you Sundae for giving me a response in a respectful and understanding way, good robust discussion like this i feel is becoming a lost art on the internet. Have a good day and look forward to Sherlock season 3.

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