No, -1, forget thismidnightmadnessApril 9 2008, 16:35:43 UTC
Will the implementation of this also come with the feature for everyone to laugh and make fun of every person that says/asks "omg, I deleted all of my entries in a drama filled drunken bout of interpersonal idiocy last night - how do I get them all back!?!?" Because if it does, I'm all in then.
Sorry, the people most likely to use the delete everything feature are the same type of flakes that randomly delete their journal every 3rd Tuesday because they're getting all over the top emo about something stupid like their best friend's sister making fun of the color of their cat's collar, and then they undelete two days later after seeing how many of their friends REALLY cared enough to call or email to find out why the poor little snowflake is upset.
How about this - WHY do YOU want/need the feature. In your whole long winded diatribe about this, I don't see any compelling argument about just WHY this feature is needed. Surprise me, give me a genuine reason this should be implemented.
Not the OP but I want to be able to easily delete all my entries when deleting an account. And I don't mean randomly deleting. :) I mean deleting it in a why-do-I-have-to-wait-60-days-for-it-to-be-purged way. Or I want to be able to delete all my entries from a certain year because time has gone by and I I don't feel they're me anymore. I know I can turn them private but I'd rather throw out my old clothes than put them in boxes; or burn old journals rather than keep them to remember how silly I was back then. ;).
MHO, this justification doesn't make very much sense. either it means "deleting" to you, or it means "recycle bin" or "save in a box for later", as it were. If it really means deleting to you, what's the actual difference between deleting all the entires then deleting the journal, or just deleting the journal? MHO, just about any way you answer this it just comes back to the "I'm a flake that may change my mind" mantra and that includes things like "I don't feel that way anymore
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If it really means deleting to you, what's the actual difference between deleting all the entires then deleting the journal, or just deleting the journal?
Security reasons? When I delete an account I like to remove all the information tied to the account. In this case it also includes entries.
but a mass deletion tool isn't going to change who you were or be able to Eternal Sunshine cherry pick the bad times out - suck it up and go back and remove/privatize them individually
I never said it would. Bad times? Suck it up? *snorts* Stop the drama. I'm not even talking about that. I don't understand why you wouldn't want a mass delete tool when you tell me to remove all my entries individually. It doesn't make any sense to me.
you want to delete the journal, you can already do that so just delete it and move on... anything else, and you're a "special snowflake", or just outright lazy at the very least.Uh? So I'm lazy because I don't want to remove them one by one? Is the fact that it would take me a long time supposed to mean
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ilu (In fact, I don't think I thanked you for the usericon swap out code. It's lovely.)
Oh rats, I traded out my special snowflake icon for something else.
You know LJ Migrate, which runs on Python, has a nuke all feature. Which is lucky, because sometimes you migrate a comm to InsaneJournal, find out that the posts can't be backdated and end up in the order of last edited and have to delete the whole comm because the round robin storytelling format is dependent on successive posting. Not that I'd know ANYTHING about that. :P
Anyway, it's either ask squeaky to purge it, change all 400 dates by hand, lose the comm name so that no one can ever find it, or nuke all.
In sum! Delete all is not just for special snowflakes. 8-|
Moderator note: let us please keep this discussion to the suggestion itself, and not go into personal judgment of those suggesting or supporting it. That way lies flamewars.
MHO, the points I've brought up here are very valid to the practicality of the suggestion and people likely to use the feature. No direct criticism of judgment of any single user was intended, however, I still do stand by my assessment that the suggested feature is at the very least impractical due to the type of user that I believe is most likely to utilize it. If anyone takes offense at that notion, they're free to bring up counterpoints to it.
Re: No, -1, forget thiskightpApril 9 2008, 20:03:19 UTC
It's not just the drunks and the emo snowflakes, though.
I have a few LJ acquaintances who are mature, level-headed adults but who suffer from diagnosed mental illnesses (chronic depression, bipolar disorder) and who during especially bad patches have deleted their journals. In many cases, they've started feeling better before the reactivation deadline and expressed much relief at being able to do so. For one person, I think this even serves as a bit of a safety valve.
I dread to think how some of them might have reacted to realizing they'd truly wiped everything out.
Re: No, -1, forget thisqfemaleApril 9 2008, 21:52:21 UTC
*snorts*
How about anybody who wants all their entries deleted 'at once' can open a support request and have somebody from LJ do it (with some program they run - not reading your entries of course!). This way it's not immediate and the person - when decided that the color green is still cool and the sister had no right to mock - can still close the support request if they change their mind.
Of course support might get swamped with this at first and it's less fun but...
Re: No, -1, forget thisazurelunaticApril 14 2008, 12:19:37 UTC
In your vision of this, which of these would it go more like?
User: "I'd like all my entries deleted, please." Support: "Sure!" *delete* "There you are!"
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User: "I'd like all my entries deleted, please." Support: "You sure about that? We can't get them back, you know." User: "Sure I'm sure." Support: "Right, then." *delete* "There you are!"
In the first scenario, there might not actually be time to close the support request, because (as people who have had multiple support requests can probably attest) some support requests are answered and closed very fast, and some are answered and closed more slowly. While a delay is often likely, it's absolutely not guaranteed if someone happens to be right there and able to handle the issue and get it approved.
Re: No, -1, forget thisqfemaleApril 16 2008, 12:52:39 UTC
How about some automate tool then that has spits out a message like this:
All of your entries will be permanently delete in 36hrs. In the meantime should you decide not to delete your entries, you can click the link above and stop the process.
Somethingorother. But I think a certain timespan between 'I want all of my entries delete' and 'done' is needed.
Sorry, the people most likely to use the delete everything feature are the same type of flakes that randomly delete their journal every 3rd Tuesday because they're getting all over the top emo about something stupid like their best friend's sister making fun of the color of their cat's collar, and then they undelete two days later after seeing how many of their friends REALLY cared enough to call or email to find out why the poor little snowflake is upset.
How about this - WHY do YOU want/need the feature. In your whole long winded diatribe about this, I don't see any compelling argument about just WHY this feature is needed. Surprise me, give me a genuine reason this should be implemented.
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Or I want to be able to delete all my entries from a certain year because time has gone by and I I don't feel they're me anymore. I know I can turn them private but I'd rather throw out my old clothes than put them in boxes; or burn old journals rather than keep them to remember how silly I was back then. ;).
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Security reasons? When I delete an account I like to remove all the information tied to the account. In this case it also includes entries.
but a mass deletion tool isn't going to change who you were or be able to Eternal Sunshine cherry pick the bad times out - suck it up and go back and remove/privatize them individually
I never said it would. Bad times? Suck it up? *snorts* Stop the drama. I'm not even talking about that. I don't understand why you wouldn't want a mass delete tool when you tell me to remove all my entries individually. It doesn't make any sense to me.
you want to delete the journal, you can already do that so just delete it and move on... anything else, and you're a "special snowflake", or just outright lazy at the very least.Uh? So I'm lazy because I don't want to remove them one by one? Is the fact that it would take me a long time supposed to mean ( ... )
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ilu (In fact, I don't think I thanked you for the usericon swap out code. It's lovely.)
Oh rats, I traded out my special snowflake icon for something else.
You know LJ Migrate, which runs on Python, has a nuke all feature. Which is lucky, because sometimes you migrate a comm to InsaneJournal, find out that the posts can't be backdated and end up in the order of last edited and have to delete the whole comm because the round robin storytelling format is dependent on successive posting. Not that I'd know ANYTHING about that. :P
Anyway, it's either ask squeaky to purge it, change all 400 dates by hand, lose the comm name so that no one can ever find it, or nuke all.
In sum! Delete all is not just for special snowflakes. 8-|
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I have a few LJ acquaintances who are mature, level-headed adults but who suffer from diagnosed mental illnesses (chronic depression, bipolar disorder) and who during especially bad patches have deleted their journals. In many cases, they've started feeling better before the reactivation deadline and expressed much relief at being able to do so. For one person, I think this even serves as a bit of a safety valve.
I dread to think how some of them might have reacted to realizing they'd truly wiped everything out.
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How about anybody who wants all their entries deleted 'at once' can open a support request and have somebody from LJ do it (with some program they run - not reading your entries of course!). This way it's not immediate and the person - when decided that the color green is still cool and the sister had no right to mock - can still close the support request if they change their mind.
Of course support might get swamped with this at first and it's less fun but...
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User: "I'd like all my entries deleted, please."
Support: "Sure!" *delete* "There you are!"
-or-
User: "I'd like all my entries deleted, please."
Support: "You sure about that? We can't get them back, you know."
User: "Sure I'm sure."
Support: "Right, then." *delete* "There you are!"
In the first scenario, there might not actually be time to close the support request, because (as people who have had multiple support requests can probably attest) some support requests are answered and closed very fast, and some are answered and closed more slowly. While a delay is often likely, it's absolutely not guaranteed if someone happens to be right there and able to handle the issue and get it approved.
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All of your entries will be permanently delete in 36hrs. In the meantime should you decide not to delete your entries, you can click the link above and stop the process.
Somethingorother. But I think a certain timespan between 'I want all of my entries delete' and 'done' is needed.
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Immediately (or as near-immediately as is feasible) making them private wouldn't go amiss, in case someone's doing it for security purposes.
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