баны за маты\censorship

[wilde_milch]

Title
баны за маты\censorship

Short, concise description of the idea
добавить возможность жалобы на нецензурную лексику пользователя\\\\\add the ability to complain about foul language user

Full description of the ideaпредлагаю добавить возможность жалобы на некорректные, а именно нецензурные выссказывания пользователей в виде кнопки, дописать

Comments

[lied_ohne_worte]

Foul language is banned in Russsia, really? You're not allowed to use swear words? Somehow I doubt that. And I guess my own country is deeply uncivilised because you are allowed to swear as much as you like as long as you don't slander/libel other people.

In all my time on the internet, I haven't seen a single "profanity filter" that works. Generally, they jump on perfectly innocuous words that are similar to banned ones while not recognising creative profanity. Things get even more interesting if you have several languages involved. For example, there is an English word which can be a a slang term for the penis, it can be a pejorative term for other people, it's a shortening of "Richard", and in German that same word means "thick/fat/clotted", depending on use.

Banning people based on such a "profanity filter"? No thanks. Personal attacks and harassment can already be dealt with through site tools and site staff. I have no wish to see people banned from the site for using "bad language". And banning on request based on a decision by a "bot", without review by a human, just calls for misuse. If you do something that offends me, I just have to trawl through your comments until I find a word that a filter might jump at and request your banning.

Oh, and additionally I am sure I for one could mortally insult people in two different languages if I chose to do so - without any single word a profanity filter would pick up. Such a filter wouldn't solve any problems, but create a lot more of them.

[wilde_milch]

Russia a civilized country, most services have the resources that provide censorship of profanity in accordance with the law, many Russian services, you will get banned for using inappropriate language, or is disconnected from the resource. this resource does not provide services that would protect users from cultural upbringing boors and inadequate users.

[lied_ohne_worte]

As boredinsomniac says, there are a variety of means available to deal with people misbehaving - introducing a bot into the system would not help matters.

Also, I hadn't been meaning to go there, but as you yourself are steering in that direction: The Russian provisions for internet censorship (which have recently made so broad that many organisations which consider political freedom an important feature of "civilised countries" are rather concerned about it) aren't really about getting people to stop swearing, are they? While I realise that I'm not in the target group for such measures by Russian authorities, I'd still rather not see the site go even beyond what the Russian government can already do now.

If swearing on the internet is really illegal under Russian laws, I think you should leave it to the Russian authorities to persecute offenders, rather than let the site use (likely non-efficient and rather hard to implement considering the many languages people use the site in) automatic measures against it.

[wilde_milch]

if you are so aware of how things work in Russia, why do you advise me to go to the authorities? Society itself is governed by rules of the relationship between each other, we can not count on the power of the law, for which we, the common people will always be guilty, saboteurs, spies, and blasphemy.

[charliemc]

I agree -- I've been online for years and have never seen an effective profanity filter.

I happen to enjoy the concept of freedom of speech -- including adult terms and profanity. There are so many ways to avoid profanity if you really don't want to read it, in my opinion...

(By the way, I don't think the use of profanity is an indication of being civilized or not civilized. That's a matter of opinion...)

[wilde_milch]

in Russian so many swear words that are used as you wish, such a service is needed, due to the fact that too much freedom of speech is also not always useful for the cultural development of the people.

[charliemc]

I can't imagine an entire nation (in this case, Russia) needing to have a service to avoid profanity. Really?

Of course, my nation (the U.S.A.) thrives on the concept of Freedom of Speech. We won't allow ANYTHING to stand in the way of that freedom. Which is why this sort of suggestion will never be popular with Americans...

(But I don't see a lot of Russians coming here to support the idea, either...)

[wilde_milch]

Your vaunted freedom of speech has become a slave, you can not call things by their names, because they run the risk of legal action. Is this freedom?