Journal deletion process - additional step for connected communities

[scolaro]

Title
Journal deletion process - additional step for connected communities

Short, concise description of the idea
If a user deletes their personal journal there should be an additional step to suggest to either transfer ownership of the communities connected to that account to someone else or delete them as well.

Full description of the ideaSome

Comments

[lady_angelina]

I actually suggested something like this a few years ago and still think it's a good idea if feasible.

Of course, one big drawback is that, as bridgetester pointed out in my version of the suggestion, communities with good content may be more likely to be deleted, which may not be desirable.

[scolaro]

I didn't list this problem, because a) communities with good content usually have more people dedicated to running it/more people willing to step in to do it if they're asked, and b) failing to address the issue leads only to postponing the problem, not solving it.

In the end even those comms would be run over by spam posts and no one could do anything about it.

But wow, you posted this in 2007 already, and still no change? :-((

[lady_angelina]

Even so, I've seen people delete communities for the sole reason that nobody had posted to them in over a year (even though there were hundreds of entries with excellent content existing in them); I luckily was able to contact one of the maintainers of said communities and convinced them to undelete it for prosperity's sake. And then there are those who get fed up with dealing with spam and abuse going on in the community, even though it may be active, so instead of letting someone else deal with it, they summarily delete it. =P And these are maintainers who aren't even planning to delete their own personal journals. I'd imagine that those who are planning to delete might strongly consider deleting the communities they maintain, too, to make a clean flounce break from LiveJournal. As though the option to automatically delete comments and entries outside your own journal weren't enough...Yeah, that's true. I think this should be geared towards finding someone else to take over, although some folks might think that's more trouble

[scolaro]

I think this should be geared towards finding someone else to take over...

Agreed, very much so. Maybe there could be an option that would make another maintainer or user owner with a mouse click, just so the comm is "saved". Not sure, though, how this would play out rule-wise.

Yeah. :< By far, "No status" seems to be the most common "status" of all the suggestions posted, even the ones dating as far back as 2001.

I'm getting the feeling that suggestions merely exists to have a place to point people to, and isn't actually watched by the ones in charge of changes...

[boredinsomniac]

It's true that a lot of the suggestions don't go farther than this community, but the maintainers work with customer care staff to select suggestions for consideration on a regular basis. I admit it's been a while - I got slammed by work shortly after I took over this community last year. I'm working on a list right now, though, and plan to follow up wth quarterly roundups.

Staff also watch the community, which can lead to ideas being informally introduced for consideration. Typically I wouldn't know about that until/unless it gets close to implementation.

[scolaro]

It's true that a lot of the suggestions don't go farther than this community, but the maintainers work with customer care staff to select suggestions for consideration on a regular basis.

Would it be possible to mark the suggestions that cannot be implemented in any way, so people know why nothing is happening?
And/or have a list somewhere, similar to the support board, so one can see the status of individual suggestions more easily? (e.g. "under consideration", "will be implemented soon", "will not be implemented due to technical difficulties" etc.)

The way the system is now this comm feels like one big swamp entries sink in, never to be seen again. I can only judge from my own entries, e. g. this one, of course. It was the most simple tiny change, nothing controversial about it

[boredinsomniac]

I totally understand. That's why I want to do quarterly submissions from now on - I certainly don't like it that there is no visible action on most submissions from the past year or more. It's not fulfilling the purpose of the community at all, and I'm not going to let it stay that way.

[ciaan]

The option to automatically delete comments and entries outside your own journal is active?

[lady_angelina]

Yeah, but only when you're deleting your journal. It's been active for about a year now. I admit, while I know people are the owners of their own content and all, this feature has had some very unfortunate consequences, where entire entries disappeared without a trace, and they had wonderful discussions, etc., that I wanted to reread. I just wish it wasn't so much of an all-or-nothing thing, and that people who delete their journals and use this feature would stop to think of the impact that it would have on other users.