whaaaaaat (more survey shenanigans)
With regards to the survey debacle -- what are we calling it, science!fail? -- I have gone from insulted and despairing and any other emotion waaaay out the other side into total bafflement. I just. What the fuck even is this.
So the latest round in this saga starts like this:
"Why are you focusing on slash in your survey?"
"Well, slash is kind of the female equivalent of the straight male interest in transsexuals. That is, the opposite of what culture would predict. So it probably reflects a more direct subcortical effect. Also, there's already data out there about romance novels we can use, which probably overlaps with relationships in fan fic, but we do have a few questions that aren't specific to slash. Maybe we'll have more in the next round."
*boggle*
Bonus! Wait a minute, isn't it more like straight dudes being into lesbian porn?
"You make an interesting comparison. But my point, of course, is that behavior that is widespread yet seems to be against what would be predicted by cultural values would be more useful for illuminating neural structure.
Romaine, above, evidently a slash fan, points out:
Now while slash isn't under the radar As much as it used to be there are still many valid reasons why it's not in the public like porn. I said this in another place but I will repeat it here: this is not all fun and games. We've lost quite a few authors because of exposure. And some violently so. It's come up in divorce cases and loss of jobs and yes being physically abused.
Lesbian porn does not tend to elicit this reaction."
... what. WHAT. Oh my god.
AND THEN, they make a new post about it in which they change their original use of the word 'transsexual' (which, my god, like this whole conversation/comparison wasn't problematic enough to start off with) to 'shemale'. Seriously. Because that's the term used in the mainstream, heterosexual, cisgendered, male-dominated porn industry.
Fandom goes ballistic in full-on ranting, righteous glory with bonus macros and gifs, and I am left GAPING because I do not even understand how this is happening.
WHAT THE FUCK, PEOPLE.
eta: and the journal's locked! The post I was talking about above is downloadable here for your perusal, I'll screencap it later if no one beats me to it.
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So the latest round in this saga starts like this:
"Why are you focusing on slash in your survey?"
"Well, slash is kind of the female equivalent of the straight male interest in transsexuals. That is, the opposite of what culture would predict. So it probably reflects a more direct subcortical effect. Also, there's already data out there about romance novels we can use, which probably overlaps with relationships in fan fic, but we do have a few questions that aren't specific to slash. Maybe we'll have more in the next round."
*boggle*
Bonus! Wait a minute, isn't it more like straight dudes being into lesbian porn?
"You make an interesting comparison. But my point, of course, is that behavior that is widespread yet seems to be against what would be predicted by cultural values would be more useful for illuminating neural structure.
Romaine, above, evidently a slash fan, points out:
Now while slash isn't under the radar As much as it used to be there are still many valid reasons why it's not in the public like porn. I said this in another place but I will repeat it here: this is not all fun and games. We've lost quite a few authors because of exposure. And some violently so. It's come up in divorce cases and loss of jobs and yes being physically abused.
Lesbian porn does not tend to elicit this reaction."
... what. WHAT. Oh my god.
AND THEN, they make a new post about it in which they change their original use of the word 'transsexual' (which, my god, like this whole conversation/comparison wasn't problematic enough to start off with) to 'shemale'. Seriously. Because that's the term used in the mainstream, heterosexual, cisgendered, male-dominated porn industry.
Fandom goes ballistic in full-on ranting, righteous glory with bonus macros and gifs, and I am left GAPING because I do not even understand how this is happening.
WHAT THE FUCK, PEOPLE.
eta: and the journal's locked! The post I was talking about above is downloadable here for your perusal, I'll screencap it later if no one beats me to it.
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comments at Dreamwidth.)