turquoise is not green, alas.

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Holy crap, this city loves St. Patrick's Day. On the drive/walk between the sushi place and my apartment, at 7pm, I saw:

• a pair of young long-locked gentlemen, one of whom copped a leprechaun accent and said "And a happy St. Paddy's day to you fine folks!" while doffing his hat in a practiced bow as he swept past. A google imagesearch for top of

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[petronia]

Well, fwiw this is basically the actual real life dynamic in Libs fandom, far as anyone can figure. XD; But their whole shtick was like FLASHBACK TO THE GAY TWENTIES.

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asdfaf libs? What is this Libs you speak of? EXPLAIN FURTHER.

[petronia]

Libertines fandom! LOL. I think I spent three months at the beginning just figuring out what had happened (and three months reading fic). The upside is that for a change, this is public entertainment for (an indie sector of) the British population, rather than a fangirl ghetto thing. The downside is having to hide yr RPS from the protagonists. THX A LOT NME.

But yeah... I guess my point was that it clearly wasn't straight friendship in real life, but peeps in the UK weren't all like OMG WERE U SEXXORING like the media would be here. It was just accepted as semi/denied/emotional not physical gay, like they had in 1920s literature, presumably because that example actually is in the culture. With more crack cocaine abuse. (Nor was it totally one-sided, but it's hard to know what goes on in people's heads, right. I do think Peter Doherty's created a situation where he can be as bent as he wants, holy shit his camp footballer thing, but no one sees him as gay because 1- if you have fucked Kate Moss there is no way you can be gay, 2

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WOW THAT IS INTENSE. Someone really felt the need to put it all up on Wikipedia too, which, you know, is so public, as you say. Tell me the fic is good/awesome/excellent! And tell me WHERE the fic is!

Seriously, I've owned their first album for years: HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS? Fucking Spin, never reporting on the good shit. I love especially how far back their 'influences' push them into that pure romantical love territory... Blake, Dickinson, Edwardian wit, what? And then all the denying and denying. O.O

[petronia]

Y'know, you're the second person of my acquaintance who's had the first album for years but never knew about the ghei. The music criticism profession this side of the pond ought to take a long hard look at its priorities. XD I mean, P4k is not NEARLY enough about the boy cuddling y/y.

Fic is variously at albion_fic and albion_unbound (you need to join, most of the good stuff is locked). There is a metric fuckton of it so prepare to wade. XD; The height of the ficcing fandom was '05-'07. Alternately gimme a working email and I'll forward a rec list I wrote up ages ago.

(If you really want the 1920s thing taken to its logical extreme, start with this one.)

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Jeeze louise. I am so there. If you could, send the rec list to theeverpopular on gmail, and I would be undyingly grateful. Pete Doherty the playwright, and WWII and laksdfdklfdf. I LOVE THAT THIS EXISTS IN ACTUAL FACT.