"God is not a deadbeat dad" - When watching Supernatural, always turn on your x-ray vision.

[su_darklily]

This post is dedicated to Elina - thanks for encouraging me back online.

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Comments

[canyon_deye]

You're incredible. I'm so glad I've managed to lure you back online - I hope it's a long, long stay! I'd also like to add you as a friend if that's okay?

Anyway! You know, I even wrote to one of my episode reactions, why did God save Sam and Dean and Castiel and why did he put them on the plane and why did he grant them in Heaven because I didn't get why God would do ALL THAT if he didn't care. He obviously does care, and I think I get now how.

Dean has finally learned that he has to act
True. I'm not happy about what he's about to do and I hope someone will stop him. But for the first time in his life, he's making his choice. Not anyone else's, not Dad's, not Sam's, not God's...

as an adult, as being told by another adult, to stop looking for the magic fix and to start making my own choices, to take responsibility for my own decisions and actions. I still think this is a fantastic idea. I'm sure this hasn't occurred to a LOT of people and I definitely think you should post this to comms for that line alone, I'm sure people

Whew. Got started

[su_darklily]

Hi Elina

Just wanted to say thanks for everything. I've managed to figure out the friending and also posting on the Spn meta community.

I have to work on getting the text type smaller and without all that unnecessary bolding or underlining though. lol.

C u around. ^^

Re: Whew. Got started

[canyon_deye]

:)Glad you figured those out! You could also post at dean_sam, which is kind of a anything-goes community for anything dealing with SPN.

If you need any help with anything, feel free to ask!

Re: Whew. Got started

[su_darklily]

Hi Elina

My goodness, I'm really impressed by the fact that you've answered all your comments!!

Thank you for your offer. I'm sure I'll need to ask for help lots of times as I continue.

I sort of feel like I'm testing out my baby legs at breakneck speed right now. So I'm wondering how everyone else (like you) seems to be managing everything so well.

Again, thank you for your encouraging nudge. It came along at exactly the right time for me. And what a lovely way to 'debut'.

You are a 'brick'. lol. And totally awesome.

[sistermagpie]

I tend to agree that the whole "deadbeat dad" thing is misleading. Frankly, it's misleading for John too, because that's not really what I'd use to describe him at all

I just lost everything I wrote in reply to this post. weeps.

[su_darklily]

So starting again, Hi Sisstermagpie, thank you and welcome to my journal

Re: I just lost everything I wrote in reply to this post. weeps.

[sistermagpie]

Arrgh--I hate it when that happens. I'm glad you took the time to work on this--it's awesome! Especially after last night's ep. I liked the way that when it came down to it, I just couldn't imagine Dean saying yes--especially to Zachariah. It's like his being such a jerk was just going to bring out all of Dean's stubborness--hurray! And I can't help but think that God is again possibly counting on that.

[alleysweeper]

As for Dean and his loss of faith. So what?

I think Dean missed the point of Joshua's words. I think they ALL have.

Joshua confirmed that God Himself put Dean and Sam on that plane. That He brought Castiel back after he was destroyed by an archangel. That God had, in fact, already taken action. This was God choosing his front line to advert the apocalypse. He has faith in THEM, now they have to have faith in themselves.

I LOVED your thoughts r/e God as a Gardner vs Shepard. Very interesting.

[su_darklily]

Thank you.

I really agree about 'they ALL' missed the point of Joshua's words. Including Joshua. But then, I'm currently writing an entry about Angels and their lack of independent thinking so really, that wasn't surprising.

I wonder, if we look at the God as Gardner imagery, where the Angels fit in. Are they the pesticides or the lawnmower? Lol.

[alleysweeper]

I look forward to reading your post r/e angels. I'm going to friend you so as not to miss it! :)

[yourlibrarian]

In many ways, for Dean, God in Supernatural is an extension of his father and 5.16 completed his ongoing alienation and sense of abandonment that he had been experiencing with John Winchester from the beginning of Supernatural.

I'll be very interested to see where things end up, because it's always seemed to me that Dean's journey revolved around learning to become his own person rather than defining himself in relation to anyone else. But his decision to become a vessel is really just one end of the possible decision -- one where he becomes a true nonentity.

In Season one, Dean hadn't seen his father for over a year

This struck me -- had they really not seen one another in that time, or was it simply that they'd been doing hunts apart?

This means that when responding to a show like Supernatural, you really do need to make it clear exactly at which level you are engaging with the meaning. So, by using 'x-ray vision', we can start discussing what was implicit beyond just the explicit dialogue.

I like your approach here.

Excuse

[su_darklily]

Hi, thank you for writing

[mystic_reader]

Very well said. I agree with you 100%. And you've helped clear a few things up for me that I was bothered by. Thank you for that.

[su_darklily]

Thank you for reading. And taking the time to comment.

And thank you for agreeing with me. It is nice when someone else can see your pov.