The thing to take away from all this is that I'm actually a ten-year-old boy.

Dec 11, 2009 02:18

You'd judge me if I told you I was taking study breaks by watching Transformers Animated, wouldn't you?

I knew you would. Good on you, I deserve judging for that.

I'll freely admit that I've been poking at Transformers fandom since the movies came out, mostly because the TF Wiki is inordinately amusing (they're the Trope Namers for Ruined FOREVERRead more... )

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happydalek December 11 2009, 14:25:16 UTC
Gendered Transformers? That never even occurred to me. I had this whole subconscious hypothesis that the Transformers only used male pronouns for themselves because of having to speak in English, and that on their home planet gender didn't exist because what purpose would it serve? No sexual reproduction going on as far as I know of*.

But now I'm envisioning an episode where the transformers on Earth are made aware of gender, and some of them decide that they are in fact female, while keeping their established personalities and male-ish voices completely intact. I think it'd be both funny and make an important point.

* Fanfiction notwithstanding, of course. Now I'm a little curious as to how Transformers pr0n would be accomplished, frankly.

*Did you ever see the Robot Chicken sketch where Optimus Prime gets prostate cancer? Hilarious.

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stunt_muppet December 12 2009, 05:15:24 UTC
I had this whole subconscious hypothesis that the Transformers only used male pronouns for themselves because of having to speak in English, and that on their home planet gender didn't exist because what purpose would it serve?I really like that theory*, but the trouble with it is that some of the Transformers are built with specifically female-modeled bodies before their ever come in contact with humans - there are female-bodied and voiced Transformers with no contact with humans in every continuity - so there's clearly some concept of gender there, which...doesn't make a great deal of sense, since none of the continuities has them sexually reproducing**, but this is in fact a series meant to sell toys and I am thinking about this far too hard ( ... )

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happydalek December 12 2009, 06:16:32 UTC
I'm not laughing at your pain, but...

Daddy Robot Jesus. XD

After stumbling across Lion King pr0n (and reading it for the same reasons that compel one to watch a horrific accident unfold), my childhood is pretty much ruined already. I'm hoping the transformers fic is full of ironies and interesting twists on the notion of actual "robot sex," but doubtless I am expecting waaaay too much.

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stunt_muppet December 12 2009, 22:05:17 UTC
He is, though! A couple of my cousin's friends did grow up with the 80s series, and Optimus is their Robot Daddy. It's just sort of an accepted thing. And with all the times he dies and comes back (the TF Wiki has a whole page devoted to "The Many Deaths of Optimus Prime") the "Optimus died for your sins" jokes become a bit inevitable.

You see, that sort of thing is why I'm glad I didn't have much internet access back then. By the time I would have been able to access Disney pr0n, I knew how to avoid it and wasn't curious enough to go looking. I kind of feel like I should just hurry up and ruin my childhood already, just to get it overwith before something else ruins it for me, but...nnngh. *cringe*

doubtless I am expecting waaaay too much

After taking a quick browse through the main TFA fic comm...yeah, for the most part you are. (There also seems to be truly alarming amounts of babyfic, which I would not have expected in a show about robots. I'm not sure how to handle this revelation.)

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happydalek December 12 2009, 23:48:50 UTC
By the time I would have been able to access Disney pr0n, I knew how to avoid it and wasn't curious enough to go looking.

Oh, I was certainly old enough to avoid it. Bedeviling curiosity just got the better of me. I had expected Nature Channel-type things. It was not.

My brain has no problem at all with Transformers babyfic. I mean, they had to come from somewhere, right?

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stunt_muppet December 13 2009, 04:39:40 UTC
I had expected Nature Channel-type things. It was not.

You expected the people writing Disney porn to have watched the Nature Channel (amusing though that would be, because now I'm imagining it written like a documentary) and/or bother to look up anything about animal anatomy? The internet is not so merciful.

I could deal with fic about the Transformers raising wee robots for some plot-related reason, but it's almost always babies brought about...well, the human way. At which point I just internally rebel, because a) they're robots and robots can't do that and b) hell, the TFA robots canonically don't know how human babies happen. There's a whole joke built around it! It was impossible to miss!

(I'm probably bring my own repulsion towards pregnancy fic into this, but dammit, I think is one instance where my bias is justified. >:( )

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