Cults and Friends

Dec 11, 2008 22:52

So in the past 8 months since I left Four Quarters I have been struggling with all the emotional and spiritual attachments that I had secured with that church. Emotionally, they were the only family I had and the largest group of friends I had ever had. They seemed to care about me sincerely and it was one reason I never left 4QF even in the face ( Read more... )

abusive, cults, exit therapy, cult, four quarters, cult intervention, 4qf

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fearadyn December 13 2008, 08:02:56 UTC
I am proud of you also! My love goes out to you and Ariel, even tho I did not know you that well, still you are dear to me.

There are a great many good things and a great many bad things at the farm. The bad things I saw were the reason I just kept to the general area of the lodge. I also had a terrible time seeing what Ariel and others of the staff had to endure. And that does not even take into account some of the scary shit I saw walking the land.

I came to the farm for the exact same reason as you did, I truly wanted a close family where I could just be myself, and do a good work. Being otherkin of course made this a fairly short list. Pagans can be just as narrow minded as anyone else, sometimes more so.

Well as you, I did find family for a time, I also came away with my beloved David as you with my beloved Ariel. Abuse is abuse, and in the end this is also why I left. It came to not be worth it.

I also will not go back, until and unless I know for a fact that there will be no more abuse.

There were many people there I came to know and love, they will always be close to my heart. I learned so much there and for that I will always give thanks.

I just always wished there could be a place we all could go, be ourselves and work together in a good way to achieve good things. But with such a place, and I have seen this before, when Bear and I bought many acres of land in Montana to make this dream of mine come true, when power goes into the hand of some people, it changes them, not in a good way.

In my case, a person who was given what I thought of as an even slice of such power decided he would be king over the rest. When that happened, others also changed not in a good way. At that point I killed all the plans there were made. It broke my heart to the point of my almost not coming back from it.

So I am really not sure how such a thing could be done, although my heart says it can be.

My heart goes out to you, I am also being shunned just as you are. Only a few of those I called family still stand at my side. It is heartbreaking, even tho I do understand they do not wish to be in the middle.

In any case I applaud you for standing up and speaking out, that is a sign of healing. No one should stand and be abused in any way. Certainly people who go and try to do a good work, put all their time, money and energy into a place should not be abused in return. Sure, such a person can gain some things, but what people do not understand is that all the good things gained in such a situation goes away the instant they are abused.

Unfortunately abusive people need those who will allow abuse to take place, in the case of the farm there will always be those who try to get a 'thicker' skin and just take it for the 'greater good'. If everyone stood up to abusers and refused to allow abuse to happen, it would most likely stop. But that will not happen.

Again, my love to your family~

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BIG HUGS!! strive4balance December 14 2008, 04:49:06 UTC
I wanted to thank you for your post. It meant a lot to both me and Arial. We both are happy to hear from you and also to see/hear that others can relate. We wanted to send out a big hug to you. I understand the otherkin thing, too... We would love to hear from you in person or over the phone. email us at striving_4_balance@yahoo.com

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