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Apr 02, 2005 02:09

So tonight, myself beautifullyrant, andy_dufrense, st_exodinus and ego_cogito went to see Sin City. Don't worry, no spoilers...

Anyway, my one word review: ExcessiveNote, that this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is a lot of whatever thing it is. I enjoyed it a lot, though I found it odd that most of the audience was taking it very seriously, and probably not liking it as much for it. ( Read more... )

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sarcasm_hime April 2 2005, 07:56:27 UTC
Yeah, we were laughing our butts off at the silly dialogue and the over-the-topness. It was still fun though, despite the ridiculous violence (there is a fine line between making a guy THINK you're going to kill him so that he'll talk, and actually injuring him so much that he will actually die :P ). Plus Elijah Wood's character amused me greatly. XD

The only thing that REALLY bothered me was the very clear gender role thing - all the stories were from a man's point of view, all the men were assertive and hard-boiled and tough and macho, and all the women were either sweet but plucky or making vague gestures towards assertiveness/independence (but only on the surface, as they all still needed a man to take care of them/get them out of trouble), and they were ALL sexy hookers/strippers/whatever. I realize that it's noir, and that's what noir is, but it still bugs me, coz I'm a girl, and I like to think there's more to girls than being sexy damsels in distress. :P

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cruc April 2 2005, 16:28:03 UTC
I don't see how it's any worse than ludicrous films like The Girl Next Door -- or even the Axe commercials that precede most Famous Players films.

The only difference is that where films and commercials based upon the ideology of sexual subservience try to be tactful so people don't complain, Sin City not only exists in the noir universe, but it also parodies it with, as Kevin said, sheer excess. The title speaks volumes about its M.O., in that it's taking the most sinful, degrading, seedy parts of our society and putting them together into a conglomeration of carnal and violent corruption.

Sin City as a graphic novel was equally as horrifying at parts, in my opinion, so I went to the theatre knowing that it would be at least as chilling as the universe on paper. In a way, it's meant to make us look at the genre of film that we've had so much experience with in the past and say, "Hey, in essense, this is all they're doing -- they're just doing it bashfully ( ... )

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sarcasm_hime April 3 2005, 06:01:57 UTC
I also hate movies and commercials like that, so it's not just Sin City - I was just specifically talking about the movie and things that bugged me in it. But those things bug me in plenty of other movies and media too. :P

I would have just liked to see one of those macho guys fuck up just ONCE and have to have a chick pull his ass out of the fire. But no, ALL the women were victims in some way or other. I understand that it's sort of a satire, but I still find the unmitigated male chauvinism distasteful. It's portraying women, without exception, as inferior and helpless, and that's just not cool.

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stillvisions April 2 2005, 17:43:20 UTC
Hey, that movie had not one, but two ex-hobbits as baddies at the wrong end of the less-baddies. Not a bad ratio.

Well, in mild defence, "The Big Fat Kill" did contain oodles of sweet plucky women who dealt out death in rather gruesome fashion, but still very true. The women were cardboard cutouts and the men were cardboard cutouts with shading, so neither were particularly deep.

I don't know how well either Rodruigez or Miller can write/direct for women... neither has reallly shown that much that I can think of before. Typically, I find that it's more they don't know how to make them believable (or at least non-laughable), so they stick to stereotype. Common blind spot I guess...

...hey, is Dave Sim making a movie? [wink]

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sarcasm_hime April 3 2005, 06:02:33 UTC
ROFL I want to make signs and/or t-shirts and heckle him at AA. XDDD

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