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Sep 02, 2010 22:57

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What do you think about betrayal? Is it possible to ever make up for it, and just how far do you have to go to make up, anyway?

It's something I've been thinking about lately. Any answers would help...

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[Filtered to Riku/70%] count_gardios September 3 2010, 08:37:00 UTC
I think that depends on the circumstances. Whether or not the other person is truly repentant, and what exactly they did.

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[Filtered/70%] stilldontgotit September 4 2010, 03:50:15 UTC
So, suppose someone's made a huge mistake, but they'd do just about anything to make up for it. You think it's worth forgiveness?

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[Filtered/70%] count_gardios September 4 2010, 05:47:01 UTC
Honestly, I don't think you should feel obligated to forgive anybody you don't want to. Or, if this is a hypothetical question, one shouldn't feel obligated to forgive anyone one doesn't want to.

That someone is willing to do just about anything to make up for it will probably be a big factor in deciding whether or not they'll be forgiven, though.

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[Filtered/70%] stilldontgotit September 4 2010, 07:45:27 UTC
Maybe it's not an obligation, but what if someone tries as hard as they can, even after everything's said and done? To just brush it off as not good enough might be a bit harsh.

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[Filtered/70%] count_gardios September 4 2010, 22:51:55 UTC
Probably. But again, depends on what the betrayal is. I mean, if someone just told one of your secrets, I imagine after some time a reasonable person would probably forgive that.

But if it's, say...selling out a family and the result is a massacre, that might be a little too much to forgive.

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[Filtered/70%] stilldontgotit September 5 2010, 02:05:47 UTC
A massacre... Now that I can understand. If that many lives are taken into account, then it's hard to forgive.

[Which is... in a way, something he did. Letting the islands fall to darkness...]

But what if all those lives are part of the equation, but it's just an accident?

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[Filtered/70%] count_gardios September 5 2010, 16:29:15 UTC
Accident or not, that might be one of the things someone can never make up for.

Now, that doesn't mean they should continue to punish themselves forever. If they can reach the point where they eventually forgive themselves, that's good. And maybe the guilt won't ever go away, but even if they can't be forgiven they should still try to live a happy life. ...though -and I'm not trying to say this is what they have to do- they should try to make up for it as long as they can.

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[Filtered/70%] stilldontgotit September 6 2010, 05:35:14 UTC
Hmm... Got it.

[There's a long pause.]

But does that make them a bad person for causing it, even if they never meant for things to go that way?

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[Filtered/70%] count_gardios September 7 2010, 02:58:06 UTC
"Bad person" is usually kind of subjective depending on where you're standing, but...if they really, truly regret it, I don't think so.

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[Filtered/70%] stilldontgotit September 7 2010, 07:05:26 UTC
So which do you think is better? Focusing on that one mistake on the off chance you can make up for it or moving forward and making sure it doesn't happen again?

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[Filtered/70%] count_gardios September 7 2010, 13:50:50 UTC
Hmm...I don't see why you can't do a mixture of both. Making sure it doesn't happen again, but keeping it at least in the back of your mind on the off chance that you can make up for it.

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