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stephanometra

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Jan 30, 2006 09:48

This is an essay about Harry Potter. If you do not like Harry Potter, or are not interested in reading essays concerning aspects of its canon or musings on the futures of its characters, do not read it.

( I don't argue with Harry/Ginny as a viable emotional or sexual attraction. But I don't think that it'll last given the opportunity. )

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serenity_winner January 30 2006, 17:18:21 UTC

Ever since I got half-way through HBP I've been dead certain Ginny was a canon!Sue. Made me want to cry, because she has so much potential as a character. But no. She's the Mary Jane to Harry's Spiderman. :(

takewing January 30 2006, 18:39:40 UTC

Dunno if I ever mentioned it, but I'm not against Harry/Ginny, or Ginny's character or anything like that. You've got a point, here, though I think you're making a pretty big assumption.

The whole deal with the press being on Harry like white on rice might last for as much as a year, but after that, I think they'd get bored with the story as they have with Harry so often in the past. If Harry did something worthy of note (ie: had a kid), that might be in the Prophet or whatever, but I really don't think the whole fame thing would be carried over to his kids ( ... )

fede January 30 2006, 21:01:29 UTC

Harry would go from The-Boy-Who-Lived to the Boy-Who-Shall-Save-Us-All to the Man-Who-Killed-He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, and that is something that would never go away.

So I don't see how it would be even possible for him to ever escape those titles. And there would guessing about the children about what great thing they would accomplish -- should another Dark Lord, they would be the first they would look to for protection due to the family history.

Ginny . . . I think she would enjoy all of the attention. She's the baby of the family, thus she's used to it. I would even say that I would guess that she would even welcome it and go out of her way to get it. Harry is well-trained as he lived in ignorance until he was 11, whereas Ginny grew up dreaming about him.

Also - this isn't even taking into account of how badly Harry is going to be 'messed up' after Voldermort is gone, assuming that there is enough left of 'Harry' to be considered 'Harry' that isn't just a body.

takewing January 31 2006, 02:05:31 UTC

Yeah, but I doubt they'd be all in his face about it on a regular basis, that's all. I do concede that you're probably right about the guessing about his kids, though. It's an annoying habit of humanity that they always seem to think that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, even in cases where they couldn't be more wrong in that assumption.

But Harry grew up essentially without a family, and I'd like to think (mainly for sentimental reasons than anything else) that if he were to survive everything relatively unscathed that he'd flock towards a "normal life" with a wife and children... cling to it, even.

And here's where I honest to God go back to studying.

stephanometra January 31 2006, 01:19:43 UTC

Jess pretty much beat me to it, but the thing is that even if there are dry spells, the popular fixation on him keeps coming back, and it never will stop coming back until he dies. Because of who he is, Harry is a tremendously important person, and the rest of the world will never forget that or tire of hearing about him.

Look at Dumbledore. Every inch the Great Man (definitely capital G, capital M), and the Prophet dropped his name every chance they had, no matter how irrelevant. It isn't just a matter of crazed Creevey clones (lol alliteration) chasing somebody around; it's about the presence, perceived and actual, that someone has on the stage of public opinion. And while I am sure that Harry aspires to be as great a wizard as Dumbledore, there's no way he'd want that much power or the expectations and scrutiny that come with it. Nor, likely, would Dumbledore have wished his circumstances on anyone else ( ... )

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devibunnie January 30 2006, 22:52:50 UTC

ginny is a slut and you know it.

hehe

i think harry should be alone and angsty forever, like if you mixed sirius and dumbledore. OR DIE IN AN EPIC STRUGGLE TO BRING THE DARK LORD WITH HIM INTO THE ABYSS OF DEATH. that would be suitable.

nojh February 1 2006, 16:11:42 UTC

I'm not sure I'm getting how you think Ginny is perfect. If anything I'd say its hard to say Ginny is anything at the moment, because we've only had one real book with her as a highly reoccurring character. In every other book, she has occurred as much as other minor characters and that is about it. Every other Weasely, for that matter, has had bigger parts than her up until HBP. If she is perfect, it is by omission rather than any proof ( ... )

stephanometra February 1 2006, 16:41:14 UTC

The story's focus on Harry's perception supports canon-Sue!Ginny. Think. Before HBP, there was really no reason to say anything about her at all, right? And yet we are still told how pretty she is, who she is dating, blah blah blah ISN'T GINNY WONDERFUL all through OotP. Everything she says is funny or relevant. She's popular. She's good at Quidditch. When she says something catty, the victim always appears to deserve it.

None of the other characters are cast in the same mold, including and especially Harry himself. We know the faults of minor characters in other Houses in Harry's year - Ernie is pompous, Zabini is a jerk and an elitist - but we don't know any of Ginny's, which leads me to believe that she doesn't have any, or at least anything that JKR would consider to be a fault. We didn't know Cho's, either, until that trainwreck of a relationship started, but Harry and Ginny dated for half a year (and more importantly, we knew more about her as a character than we ever did about Cho long before HBP) and still none surfaced.

nojh February 1 2006, 21:04:37 UTC

We knew /about/ Ginny, but we never focused on her. If I remember correctly most of Ginny's lines in OotP was as a support/foil character to someone else's comments. If anything, up until HBP, Ginny was a very flat character, and flat characters don't have faults unless that is their driving goal (Ernie and Zabini for example). The only true dynamic characters (of the children) are the Trio, The Twins, The Exchange Students, and Neville.

And even arguging that Ginny was flat isn't true, sadly. CoS had Ginny as the main reason that the bad guy had any power. It was her fault to begin with even if she ended up being a victim in the end. I'd say that was actually one of the defining events, other than it was obvious that she had a crush on Harry when she first met him. Those are things you could say about her before HBP.

theamazingtish February 1 2006, 19:07:21 UTC

I'm not convinced that Harry wouldn't want to have children. I could see him wanting to have a sort of 'normal' life after killing Voldemort (assuming he survives, of course). And whilst he's a big celebrity right now because Vold is gathering his forces and the war is about to reach its zenith, I think his fame will wear off in a few years. People will certainly know of him and about him, but they'll move on.