I do want to be fair to Marble Hornets; EMH obviously has a larger writing team, I've no doubt they have experience with the ARG aspect and the story telling format before. Because they did label the Slenderman as meta from the beginning, they have a great deal of freedom to play around with the knowledge in ways that other series don't. I really, really want MH to shake up it's current structure. They've just seemed to have forgotten what worked in the first season.
TribeTwelve is just SO FRUSTRATING, he obviously has a glint of something good and... wait, you found a device? EMH did that already, man, and their device is not only functional-looking, it has obvious in-story relevance.
I will check those other projects out! That's a big problem, I think, with people continuing to use MH as their clear inspiration. If you have distortion, why aren't you editing it out? What good is the Operator symbol if you're not connecting it to why he's called the Operator in the first place? TribeTwelve, again, has a great variation on the Operator symbol, but UGH. Be more original, Noah.
I've tried a few straight blogs, but those can be a lot more hit or miss. When people do try to do variation, it's often really stupid (oh god don't look at the one where the guy in it is a Slenderman proxy, which, that doesn't make sense!! Why are you still sane? Why are you blogging if he's controlling you? askghdhshs)
The only blog I followed (semi-followed, really) was Just Another Fool back when Marble Hornets was still new and Unfiction grouped all the Slenderman stuff together as "side stories" of Marble Hornets. It had the advantage of being started up very soon after Marble Hornets, so Victor Surge's original tellings about Slenderman were still fresh in everyone's minds and the distortion wasn't as big a deal as it became later, which freed JAFOOL to do it's completely own thing. Joshua used a lot of Norse mythology in it, especially the concept of Yggdrasil, and even though Logan ended up going pretty proxy-ish in the end it was concurrent with Marble Hornets before it ended.
Someone who follows me on Tumblr tried to plug their fledgling series to me and uuuugh it was so bad. She tried to combine really terrible Alice in Wonderland themes with Slenderman, the acting was horrific, the writing was horrific, and the camera she used wasn't very good because there was terrible lag between the audio and the video, and unsynced audio and video is one of my major pet peeves when watching things.
What I'd really want to see (I say, having no time to do it myself) is people experiment more with the format. What can you do on the internet? How can you change this up?
I really like so many elements of EMH because they work everything together really well and exploit the internet connection a lot. They get people actively involved in helping them and so have an in character reason to keep them updated. People also seem to forget that the character in question has to have a motivation behind slapping it up on the internet. Marble Hornets originally was just a documentation work, but the way the story runs now, it's a little confusing as to why Jay doesn't try to use the internet more to his advantage. Certain creepypastas work because they exploit the internet angle. It's not necessarily a lack of an imagination as people being limited by ideas of traditional fiction.
I agree. In the first season, Jay starting to post current-day videos of himself could be, and was, explained by a growing addiction to and dependency on documenting everything, which highlighted how incredibly isolated he was becoming, being desperate enough to share his life with strangers on the internet when all kinds of horrifying freaky shit is happening to him. Now it's just... what? Something freaky happened around Jessica in the hotel? You've found all these tapes that now include footage of a murder and you're not going to the police about it but instead posting it on the internet?
It's like you said, limitation due to ideas of traditional fiction. I know what you mean about lack of time, though, I'm trying to build up the beginnings of a series on Tumblr and it's proving really difficult for so many reasons gah. e_e
Oh seriously YES. I would really appreciate advice/soundboarding/second opinions because so few people I know IRL are into Slender stuff. My AIM sn is tehsongsong! I can't sign on now (long day of class, up early tomorrow), but I'll be around tomorrow or whatever time would work for you!
Cool! Mine has changed to songofsobriety (i... i don't know why i picked this >_>), and since my time is always wonky due to China, I'll see you when I see you?
Oh haha I think I already had that sn... I guess I forgot it was you? (I'm so terrible with using AIM it's ridiculous) But yeah, whenever we're both on works!
TribeTwelve is just SO FRUSTRATING, he obviously has a glint of something good and... wait, you found a device? EMH did that already, man, and their device is not only functional-looking, it has obvious in-story relevance.
I will check those other projects out! That's a big problem, I think, with people continuing to use MH as their clear inspiration. If you have distortion, why aren't you editing it out? What good is the Operator symbol if you're not connecting it to why he's called the Operator in the first place? TribeTwelve, again, has a great variation on the Operator symbol, but UGH. Be more original, Noah.
I've tried a few straight blogs, but those can be a lot more hit or miss. When people do try to do variation, it's often really stupid (oh god don't look at the one where the guy in it is a Slenderman proxy, which, that doesn't make sense!! Why are you still sane? Why are you blogging if he's controlling you? askghdhshs)
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Someone who follows me on Tumblr tried to plug their fledgling series to me and uuuugh it was so bad. She tried to combine really terrible Alice in Wonderland themes with Slenderman, the acting was horrific, the writing was horrific, and the camera she used wasn't very good because there was terrible lag between the audio and the video, and unsynced audio and video is one of my major pet peeves when watching things.
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I really like so many elements of EMH because they work everything together really well and exploit the internet connection a lot. They get people actively involved in helping them and so have an in character reason to keep them updated. People also seem to forget that the character in question has to have a motivation behind slapping it up on the internet. Marble Hornets originally was just a documentation work, but the way the story runs now, it's a little confusing as to why Jay doesn't try to use the internet more to his advantage. Certain creepypastas work because they exploit the internet angle. It's not necessarily a lack of an imagination as people being limited by ideas of traditional fiction.
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It's like you said, limitation due to ideas of traditional fiction. I know what you mean about lack of time, though, I'm trying to build up the beginnings of a series on Tumblr and it's proving really difficult for so many reasons gah. e_e
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