random prattle about draco/luna inspired by a question in ship_debate

Dec 07, 2006 11:51

Like I said above, Draco/Luna's a favorite of mine from time to time. I read a fic once where they sort of got together and then almost immediately broke up, but in the process of trying to understand each other both really learned something. And I think that that really goes to the heart of Draco/Luna. I mean, they both have that dad thing, ( Read more... )

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go_back_chief December 8 2006, 14:26:43 UTC
Draco/Luna has ever since I first started liking it, evolved to one of my favourite ships, and what you're saying here is defnitely part of the reason for it. They are each other's opposite in many ways (Draco is incredibly intensive and very much present whereas Luna lives in her own little world literary), but they are also similar. My favourite kind of ships are actually the ones where I think the involved parties can learn something from each other -I don't care much about the forever lasting-kind of love.

I'm also intrigued, because this is a ship I actually think has a little bit of chance at becoming Canon, even if that chance is ever so slight. I think it's more likely than any other Luna-ship, at least, even though that's not saying very much. And I can't help wondering if the way their names reflect one another ("bad faith" and "good love", almost the opposite, as well as the star-constellation connection to both their given names) is intentional (which, if it is, doesn't necessarily have to mean in a shippy way, but it will still be interesting to see when all books are written).

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glorfindelghost December 8 2006, 20:24:09 UTC
I was just thinking the other day that d/l really works in canon post-HBP: I feel that once Draco is a bit calmer about his loss of reputation then he's going to be open to new possibilities, rethinking things, wanting a bit of comfort - and there's Luna, the girl who couldn't give a damn about reputation, who can offer this delightfully skewed perspective and is such a dreamer (albeit quite a perceptive one)that there's something free about her company aned her lack of grounded intensity. That could really work for me (and of course, JKR is very fond of her slightly Freudian pairings - Blonde haired, blue eyed Luna = Blonde haired, blue eyed Narcissa?).

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static_pixie December 8 2006, 21:13:35 UTC
I'll add to the Freud idea; Draco's arc seems to be following Harry's in that book 6 was for him what 5 was for Harry. Meaning book 7 may just be Draco's book 6, where he finally finds some inner peace. In the middle of a war. Typical. ^^ Anyway, Ginny's a year younger than Harry and Luna would be a year younger than Draco. And I really think Luna's going to die, so there's the 'come together and then part' angle of it.

But yeah, when the Gryffindor tempers were just getting to him too much he could retreat back to Luna if he ends up with the Order. I think they'd both be on the outside in that sense. And, you know, they both think Hagrid's a total idiot, too. Which really has no relevance, it just makes me smile. :)

But wow would that ever play terribly in the movies. Tom Felton and Evanna Lynch look like they could be brother and sister and....eww.

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glorfindelghost December 8 2006, 22:43:58 UTC
Oooh, I like that a lot, the idea of Draco being a book behind and echoing Harry's progress. I'm not hopeful about Luna's survival prospects either - as you say, she's rather arc-less, but I think there may be something planned for her.

But yeah, when the Gryffindor tempers were just getting to him too much he could retreat back to Luna if he ends up with the Order. I think they'd both be on the outside in that sense.

I've always liked the way that Luna is the complete opposite to all the Gryff's - she's like this unlikely oasis of serene sanity - I could see Draco, among others, being drawn to that and sort of embracing his 'otherness'.

But wow would that ever play terribly in the movies. Tom Felton and Evanna Lynch look like they could be brother and sister and....eww.

Heh - Lynch is still growing though, she could change quite a bit. Although I see what you mean - apart from the blindingly brassy dye jobs there's something similar in the eye and the chin. and possibly the nose and the mouth. Ok, yeah...ew. And there's a 4 year age gap, which...awkward!

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go_back_chief December 9 2006, 22:00:34 UTC
and of course, JKR is very fond of her slightly Freudian pairings - Blonde haired, blue eyed Luna = Blonde haired, blue eyed Narcissa

Yeah, I was thinking about that, too, not to mention that JKR seems fond of pairings with "sibling-similarity"; both Arthur and Molly being redheads, and the Malfoys all being blond. I also think D/L fits into a type of "absurd" comical pairings that could possibly match her sense of humour. So yeah, not as unlikely as I bet most of fandom thinks.

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static_pixie December 8 2006, 21:00:11 UTC
I was actually thinking that as I was writing this last night. Honestly, I can't see Draco ever falling for Pansy in the way he'd need to fall unless her character gets a major overhaul. I think he could maybe learn to appreciate her and feel the sort of affection he might feel for a sister towards her, but nothing romantic, she's far too into him. And JKR did say that everyone was with the wrong person at the Yule Ball. And yeah, the names are so similar in the way you've described and it's so...wonderfully perfect in an odd, odd way that no one would get but them. And she's also really the only girl who associates with Harry's little group that's from a house other than Gryffindor, and so if Draco ended up with the Order, I could totally see him seeking out the company of someone who didn't have that Gryffindor mindset.

But I think it'd be a sad romance because I don't think Luna's going to make it through book 7. She has no real arc and it's sort of too late to give her one. And, like Dumbledore, she doesn't seem to fear death, at least given what she said about her mother. She's been used as a learning tool before back when Harry lost Sirius, and JKR could just do it again and then kill her off.

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go_back_chief December 9 2006, 22:24:47 UTC
And she's also really the only girl who associates with Harry's little group that's from a house other than Gryffindor, and so if Draco ended up with the Order, I could totally see him seeking out the company of someone who didn't have that Gryffindor mindset.

Not to mention that she's the only one in Harry's group of friends that he's never insulted, or been insulted by. Well, as far as we know, anyway. ;-) I love the train scene in OotP where she is the only one in the compartment who doesn't laugh when Harry calls him a git.

You know, before Neville/Luna was sunk, I really hated that ship, because it seemed like the people who argued for it thought it would be great and make sense because "Luna was openminded to accept someone like Neville". I always wanted to scream "But Neville is a GREAT guy! Anyone can see that! Not only people who 'are openminded' and 'think outside the box'". However, the same can't be said about Draco. I could see her "going against the stream" when it came to him.

But I think it'd be a sad romance because I don't think Luna's going to make it through book 7. She has no real arc and it's sort of too late to give her one. And, like Dumbledore, she doesn't seem to fear death, at least given what she said about her mother. She's been used as a learning tool before back when Harry lost Sirius, and JKR could just do it again and then kill her off.

That's interesting. I don't necessarily agree, but it would be interesting if it did play out that way.

The way I see it, I think JKR does have some purpose for Luna that we're going to see more of in book seven. I think she's been too thouroughly introduced for that to not be true, if you know what I mean? I mean, the only real plot point she's served so far, was the Skeeter article in OotP (she wasn't necessary in the department of mysteries, except for the thestral thing, and that could easily have been Harry's or Neville's idea instead), so I think for her character to have a point, she'll have some more plot point. What that plot point is, remains to be seen, but it could of course have something to do with Draco, in one way or another. I, too, think there's a good chance that she'll die after having served her plot point though, which is actually where some of my biggest relutance to predicting D/L comes from.

Still, if she survives (and if Draco does, but I'm about 75% sure he will after the last book), I think there's a little chance of canonical D/L, but not more than a mentioning in the epilogue, seeing as they're both secondary characters, and their romance is much less important than for instance H/G or R/Hr.

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