[Fandom: another quote from that thread over at spn_gossip]
But first, FUCK YEAH, TAKE THAT NADAL!!! Not that I'm a bitter Federer fan or anything. Not bitter at all. Nope.
And whatever. Federer's still hotter, SO THERE.
Anyway. My non-vindictiveness aside, there was a really amazing quote up at spn_gossip from the same thread I go the first one from that I thought I'd put up. I don't know whose words these are but I kind of agree:
Ellen played a lead in a romantic movie.
She really just had a little show that was a knock-off of Friends. She really wasn't known at all before she made her announcement. In fact, she was pretty much a b- lister when she came out. Coming out catapulted her to fame.
I see what you're saying, but its far too easy to say, "Well, this won't play in Peoria, so let's all just keep hush-hush." That's some self-hatred bullshit right there. Until and unless gay men get over the the fact that someone will always not like them, they are allowing those people to win. EW had this great write-up about Adam Lambert and the gay writer mostly spent the time talking about this very thing - until gay men just lead their lives as they see fit, they allow the double-standard to continue to exist. Its letting the others win by not even trying.
I'm not saying gay actors have to march in some Gay Pride Parade, but just by being themselves, they'll have scored a point. And the more that do it, the better they'll all be. They can't just sit in a corner their whole lives and say, "Alas, I must hide because someone somewhere will hate me because I'm me." That's a terrifically sad way to live.
Besides, there is WAY more to do than rom coms, and that's quite a pigeon hole right there, too. Hell, even Matthew McConaughey can't make good ones, and he's straighter than a ruler.
The thread's called, "Why so quick to believe what doesn't make sense" if you want to check it out; it's on the second page of the latest post. But I agree here. It's not about marching necessarily, it's about reminding people of your presence and you can't do that if you're invisible. That was what was so important about Adam, win or lose; visibility. In the end, I think it was all about his not being afraid of stereotypes. Because he does represent a lot and mainstream society expects him to either be ashamed of these and downplay them, or kind of be the clown and crazily play them up for fame a la Carson Kreesly. And he didn't do either, he just was Adam. He painted his nails and he competed professionally and didn't make a big deal out of anything. The pictures came out and he didn't try to deny them, but more importantly, he didn't try to capitalize on them in any way by playing up to some stereotype. He just continued to be Adam. If Adam's most excited about his jacket on the tour, it's not Adam being fake or camp and trying to get a laugh because, 'oh, that's so gay, it's funnny!' it's just Adam telling the truth and not caring what you think about him for it, and it's funny because of Adam's personality, not because he's gay.
...if any of that makes any sense and or gels at all with the quote.
And whatever. Federer's still hotter, SO THERE.
Anyway. My non-vindictiveness aside, there was a really amazing quote up at spn_gossip from the same thread I go the first one from that I thought I'd put up. I don't know whose words these are but I kind of agree:
Ellen played a lead in a romantic movie.
She really just had a little show that was a knock-off of Friends. She really wasn't known at all before she made her announcement. In fact, she was pretty much a b- lister when she came out. Coming out catapulted her to fame.
I see what you're saying, but its far too easy to say, "Well, this won't play in Peoria, so let's all just keep hush-hush." That's some self-hatred bullshit right there. Until and unless gay men get over the the fact that someone will always not like them, they are allowing those people to win. EW had this great write-up about Adam Lambert and the gay writer mostly spent the time talking about this very thing - until gay men just lead their lives as they see fit, they allow the double-standard to continue to exist. Its letting the others win by not even trying.
I'm not saying gay actors have to march in some Gay Pride Parade, but just by being themselves, they'll have scored a point. And the more that do it, the better they'll all be. They can't just sit in a corner their whole lives and say, "Alas, I must hide because someone somewhere will hate me because I'm me." That's a terrifically sad way to live.
Besides, there is WAY more to do than rom coms, and that's quite a pigeon hole right there, too. Hell, even Matthew McConaughey can't make good ones, and he's straighter than a ruler.
The thread's called, "Why so quick to believe what doesn't make sense" if you want to check it out; it's on the second page of the latest post. But I agree here. It's not about marching necessarily, it's about reminding people of your presence and you can't do that if you're invisible. That was what was so important about Adam, win or lose; visibility. In the end, I think it was all about his not being afraid of stereotypes. Because he does represent a lot and mainstream society expects him to either be ashamed of these and downplay them, or kind of be the clown and crazily play them up for fame a la Carson Kreesly. And he didn't do either, he just was Adam. He painted his nails and he competed professionally and didn't make a big deal out of anything. The pictures came out and he didn't try to deny them, but more importantly, he didn't try to capitalize on them in any way by playing up to some stereotype. He just continued to be Adam. If Adam's most excited about his jacket on the tour, it's not Adam being fake or camp and trying to get a laugh because, 'oh, that's so gay, it's funnny!' it's just Adam telling the truth and not caring what you think about him for it, and it's funny because of Adam's personality, not because he's gay.
...if any of that makes any sense and or gels at all with the quote.