Reasons for Pro-Choice pt. 1

Jun 05, 2006 01:00

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A while back, I posted a little explanation of why I'm making more political-type posts lately. (Not often, mind you, but anything is more than my previous zero. *g*) In the post, I said, Therefore, if it comes up and I feel disposed to speak of it, you'll find me arguing in favor of gay rights (including marriage), disabled rights, women's ( Read more... )

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starwatcher307 June 29 2006, 19:00:12 UTC
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Hmm... maybe it's older vs newer computers? It worked for me just now.

Anyway, the exact quote is --

Condom use by males accounts for only 6% of contraceptive use in developing countries and only 19% in developed countries.
Gita Sen et al., Population Policies Reconsidered: Health, Empowerment, and Rights (Boston: Harvard School of Public Health, 1994), p. 226.

So, re-reading that, it looks like I mis-read and mis-stated a little. I'll go in to clarify that now.

No, I don't have any other sources for that data, and it may be less accurate now than it was when the article was first published. But it just struck me -- "Wow, Ginmar's always pissed that guys don't want the responsibility of a woman being pregnant even when they refuse to use condoms, and this just proves it!" I was shocked.

Otherwise, excellent.

Thank you.

And now, here's something else that has struck me as a side-shoot of so many men putting women down. In this post, (not locked) the OP questions why so many fictional women must be made "not girly" to be interesting. Among the comments are --

I hate it when a female character's awesomeness is basically a condemnation of "womanly" characteristics. And I especially hate it when it's women doing the condemning, dismissing anything girly, hating pink on principle, looking down on women who wear make-up or cry when they're upset or don't know anything about baseball. I remember on Survivor once, one male contestant said a female contestant (Stephenie, known for being athletic and tough and competitive) was so awesome he almost forgot she was a girl, and instead of turning around and belting him in the mouth, she smiled like it was the nicest thing anyone had said about her. What's wrong with her? Why would you ever smile over someone saying basically how much girls suck and how awesome it is that you transcend your sucky gender? Yuck.

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UGH YES. The "you're just one of the boys" thing, as though that's somehow entire leagues more awesome than not being one of the boys-- ugh! Ugh! Double ugh!

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Yes! I hate this idea that the only way to be a cool chick is to be as singularly unlike a "chick" as possible. As long as you're still hot (this cannot be stressed enough - being unlike a chick is only good if you still LOOK like a chick, butch ladies need not apply). And I hate that women buy into it, because all it is is slamming other women to make yourself look better and thus make men like you. How fucked up is that?

I thought, "Wow! They're right!" And I must admit that, as a child, I wanted to be a boy because "boys got to have a lot more fun" -- this despite the fact that I was pretty tomboyish myself, climbing trees and riding bikes and spending a lot of time outside. It looks like this is another facet of societal thinking that will have to be changed before men ever regard women as better than 4th-class citizens.
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ginmar June 29 2006, 19:13:07 UTC
Claire Booth Luce was once told that she thought like a man. She replied, "I reject the compliment. One either thinks or one doesn't." Accepting a compliment should not require that one divorce one's self from one's gender and embrace the other. It's also a way of insulting women for one woman's sake while holding men up as perfect and the standard. Nice little manipulative trick, isn't it?

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starwatcher307 June 29 2006, 19:33:28 UTC
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Nice little manipulative trick, isn't it?

Yes, it is, and one I wasn't aware of until those posters pointed it out. Now I've learned something new, and be on the lookout to reject it.
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ginmar June 29 2006, 19:39:21 UTC
I used to have an ex who'd do that---try and make me feel special at other women's expense. It bugged me till I figured it out.

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