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starryeyedmagic July 14 2009, 19:54:13 UTC
I do know what Maryanne's deal is from the books. That's one of the things I'm glad about because I feel like they're going way too slowly with it and I would be annoyed if I didn't already know. And Daphne too. She's not in the books so I have no clue what's up with her.

They do differ from the series, but personally so far I've felt like the main essence is the same so the changes haven't bothered me (maybe only 1 or 2 have slightly). The changes are more just because the books are told from Sookie's POV. She's the narrator so she's always there.
In the show you get to learn a lot about other characters that had much more minor parts in the book. Like for example, Jason is barely in book 2 at all so they had to figure out a way to incorporate him into this season. So I guess they were like "LOL JASON IS DUMB ENOUGH TO BE IN THE CULT, LETS HAVE HIM DO THAT!" And then it makes the fellowship of the sun storyline more personal for Sookie too.

And the Maryanne thing is touched upon in the first couple of chapters (when Sookie is attacked, like in the last episode) and then the storyline is basically forgotten while she goes to Dallas...and then brought back up again when her, Bill, and Eric return in the last few chapters. Now it's a storyline for the other characters throughout the season.

But the parts of the show where Sookie is actually there are pretty much the same. Except for Jessica who's not in the books at all.

ERIC IS SO AMAZING! Seriously, the show has not even scratched the surface on how awesome he is yet. I'm sure everyone will fall over in love with him by the end of the season if they're not already. And Sookie/Eric is one of the hottest relationships ever. Eric treats her so much better than Bill ever did. It's not even worth comparing.

Agreed on Sam. I love him but I'm wary about where they're taking him this season.

Jessica/Hoyt are too cute! I'm so excited for this storyline since it's not in the books at all. All we know about Hoyt from the books is that he's Jason's BFF and is the most adorable guy ever.

LOL I BET JASON IS TOTALLY GOING TO BANG THE PREACHER'S WIFE!

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lykeleia July 17 2009, 06:34:30 UTC
I don't know if I ever mentioned this, but your post couldn't have come at a better time, because just before this I had watched all there is so far of season 2.

Yea, it's alright, you get used to it with these kinds of shows, as far as plot is concerned. Yea, and the way they structure the show... I feel that often, hardly anything is a coincidence. It feels like a well-used tool in TV story arcs that is familiar to me. They introduce something new, make you think it's innocuous, when it's not, and then BAM! It's important. And for me, that's Daphne. I don't what her deal is either, but I'd like to find out, just like with Maryann.

LOL JASON IS DUMB ENOUGH TO BE IN THE CULT, LETS HAVE HIM DO THAT!" And then it makes the fellowship of the sun storyline more personal for Sookie too. ROFL, agreed, and plot-wise, that makes sense to me as well.

Aha, well I'm eager to see how they work in more from the novels and expand upon it... especially with regards to Eric/Sookie. I'm not sure about the books, but already I'm more interested in that than I ever was with her and Bill. I guess I had this romantic notion that were anything to happen, Eric seems to be so selfish that the only way Sookie would entertain the notion of being with him is if he changed, and if so, it would be for her, and I'll bet it's something he would never contemplate otherwise, especially for a human. And, in the less romantic corner of my mind, their relationship seems more interesting because it's somewhat forbidden, seeing as Sookie is currently with Bill, and I'm willing to bet Eric wouldn't never thought he'd be so drawn to a human.

Jessica and Hoyt are very cute... their kissing was so sweet and sexy!

YES PLZ. You so know he wants to... I couldn't believe when she came into his room in her bathrobe and negligee. I was like "Oh noes, Sarah, don't give the Stackhouse horndog a reason to slobber!" LMAO. Actually, I would like to see them together. They fleshed out Sarah in a way that, even though she's participating in extreme beliefs and activities, she gives us reasons why, very personal ones at that.

And poor Jason, I really feel like he wants to renounce/amend his old ways, though unfortunately, a woman of real caliber has come along, and she's hot besides! Wonder how long he'll last.

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starryeyedmagic July 18 2009, 03:55:46 UTC
Well, they at least partially told you what Maryanne was at the end of the last episode because they showed her arms transform into the maenad that attacked Sookie. So at least we're getting there!
And Daphne has scratches on her back so maybe she was attacked by the maenad too? She's probably something supernatural herself because of that and because she apparently knows that Sam is shifter.

Eric seems to be so selfish that the only way Sookie would entertain the notion of being with him is if he changed
It's interesting that you phrased it that way. I won't tell you what happens but...it's a bit complicated. He both changes and doesn't change at the same time. I guarantee it's not what you expect though.

Even though Eric is a selfish bastard he also has this whole other side to him that we really haven't seen at all yet (that's not because the show changed anything, in the book series you just don't see that side of him until later too). He can actually be really sweet sometimes. I'd say Eric is more "girly" about Sookie than she even is about him, haha. I'm telling you, it's there. He just keeps it really hidden only to come out at selective moments. And he really listens to her and understands her in a way Bill never did.

I'm willing to bet Eric wouldn't never thought he'd be so drawn to a human.
Eric does hate how vulnerable she makes him. He's supposed to be this BAMF vampire, this isn't supposed to happen to him. There's this one amazing moment (that I don't think gives anything away) where he leans in really close to her neck and he's like "Should I bite you and kiss you all over? Or bite you and end it all? Because then maybe...maybe I could stop thinking about you. Thinking about you is an annoying habit that I need to be rid of." (I'm paraphrasing)
Sookie basically breaks him. To the point where Pam has to be like "AHHH SOOKIE, WHAT DID YOU DO TO HIM? I HAVE NEVER SEEN HIM LIKE THIS! AND I'VE BEEN HIS BFF FOR CENTURIES!" lol

But it's not just because she's human. I mean, vampire/vampire relationships are actually kind of uncommon in this universe. It does happen on occasion though (2 vampire/vampire relationships are really significant to the plot actually, both of which you'll see a little bit of later in the season).

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lykeleia July 20 2009, 16:25:53 UTC
Yes, agreed. And by now we've both seen the next episode, but I haven't read your comments on the episode yet.

Yes, so now we know that she is whatever attacked Sookie, unless there's more than one of them running around. I thought maybe Daphne was in league with her, since she had those same scratches, but now we know she's a shapeshifter. Doesn't mean there isn't still something going on there. And OMG. Shapeshifters run a little hotter than most? You know I thought the Bill/Sookie/Sam love triangle was quite enough, but seriously? The Twilight part of my brain can't help but make the connections, lol. Aha! See I didn't know Maryann was a maenad, but it was one of my theories! *feels so smart* The way all those people were acting at the party, it reminded me of The Bacchae when I read it... also the way she was dressed at Tara's birthday party, she looked like a Greek goddess, she had that painting of Hermes, and Sookie heard heard speaking what I thought may have been Ancient Greek (or some kind of ancient language) in her head. Wow, if all that is true, I will be very proud of myself, lol. ;P

Really? I' looking forward to all that, with Eric and Sookie that is. Just from the little I saw in this episode, even though it is for his own reasons, Eric's a lot more willing to let Sookie take risks. Like her infiltrating the church, even though it could be dangerous, I think he trusts her, and the fact that he is willing to let her make her own decisions. Haha, this is where, and in a way I don't blame him, Bill is annoyingly overprotective. So much so that he won't let her live her own life. That's one of the objections I had with Edward and Bella, even if I knew he was only doing it because he cared so much, I felt he restricted certain things to the point of absurdity. (Sorry, sometimes can't help but see the parallels, lol.)

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starryeyedmagic July 20 2009, 19:28:41 UTC
I thought that the scratches meant that Daphne was just attacked by Maryanne just like Sookie was. And I guess she survived because she was a shifter? They heal more quickly too. Not quite as fast as vamps, but still much faster than regular humans.

And the warm thing isn't really like a Twilight thing, haha. It's just a general werewolf thing. Just like Vampires being kind of cold and not being able to be in direct sunlight is general vampire knowledge.

This is awesome that you picked up on that! haha, kind of like Sookie in the actual book except you're being actually smart about it:

"'Why a maenad?' I asked, startling all of them. I hoped I was pronouncing the word correctly. 'Naiads are water and dryads are trees, right? So why a maenad, out there in the woods? Weren't maenads just women driven mad by the god Bacchus?'
'Sookie, you have unexpected depths,' Eric said, after and appreciable pause. I didn't tell him I learned that from reading a mystery. Let him think I read ancient Greek literature in the original language. It couldn't hurt."
- Living Dead In Dallas, pg. 46

It's interesting because that discussion happens when Sookie is first attacked. Dr. Ludwig comes in and is like "Yup, it was a maenad!" No one wonders what it was like in the show. Also in the book Maryanne appeared to Sookie at first as...Maryanne (although Sookie had never met her before) just naked in the woods with her pig (like how Tara first saw her). And then she said "I have a message for Eric Northam" and then she turned monster and attacked her. lol, although TBH I can't for the life of me remember why the attack was a message for Eric. I don't think it was explained well.

Eric does trust Sookie. He totally gets that she's strong willed and wants to be independent and that's part of the reason he loves her. I mean, he still has old fashion tendencies like Bill due to being 1000 years old, but whenever he says something like that Sookie glares at him and then he's like "AH SHIT, SORRY, YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT!" so he's at least trying and he's getting a lot better. Whereas Bill doesn't even realize when he's being chauvinistic. And if someone mentioned that he was too controlling he'd be like, "What? me? never!" lol

Edward/Bella bothers me for the same reason. I mean, I still like them I guess but yea, Edward/Bella and Bill/Sookie are very similar ships.

Actually book 3 is A LOT like New Moon. There's even a werewolf named Alcide who has a crush on her. haha. But...Eric is there too. And that's what makes it better than Twilight.

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lykeleia July 21 2009, 17:37:01 UTC
Yes, that would make sense. If she's a shifter, and that way she would've been able to recover from the poison on her own too. I just thought it was somewhat odd that she hadn't mentioned being attacked by such a thing yet. I mean, on the one hand, she may believe it's not so unusual because she is also part of the supernatural realm given what she is, and things like that can happen, but it still seems weird to me. I guess I'd really like Sam to ask, since he's now seen the several times, and he's a shifter too, so she wouldn't have to feel odd telling him. I'm just also unsure of how fast she's gravitated towards him. It's one of those annoying facets of multiple character/plot lines... if everyone just sat down and shared what they knew (like if Sam had mentioned any of this to Sookie or Tara), they would be able to figure it all out, lol. But then, that wouldn't be any fun now would it? Then again, the writers have got it such a way that Sam's not on very good speaking terms with either of them.

And the warm thing isn't really like a Twilight thing, haha. It's just a general werewolf thing. Just like Vampires being kind of cold and not being able to be in direct sunlight is general vampire knowledge.

Aha, see, I did not know this. I think knew that generally, silver bullets or anything silver will hurt shifters, but here they have it hurting the vamps as well. I'm more familiar with general vampire lore than I am were/shifter lore, even though I think I like the latter better, lol.

Aha! Yay! I was right! Lol, that's right Sookie, I actually did read Euripides. ;P

Oh, I found out why the attack was for Eric, but I put in my other comment. I didn't want to spoil myself, but apparently it was because Maryann was trying to tell Eric that he needed to make her an offering? Is that sounding familiar?

Lol, aw Eric, trying so hard for Sookie. And see here's the thing, I don't think Bill's being chauvinistic per se, it's just that if he believes Sookie's life will be threatened, then he acts ridiculously overprotective and doesn't believe she has the power/ability to take care of herself, which says to me that he actually does not have much confidence in her. However, and this is where it reminded me of Edward, I somewhat understand given that he's a vampire and there are certain strengths that she could never possess that would take care of her in a way she never could, but I still feel as if it says that he doesn't connect with her on equal ground, and I don't think that's how one should regard their partner. Being in a relationship means not only that you trust one another (and Bill should trust her to do certain things on her own as well), but that you are equal partners. Plus, even though she did have help from Sam, we see how she handled herself at the close of season 1 with Rene. The flip side of that of course that were she to go up against a bunch of vamps, she wouldn't stand a chance.

Edward/Bella bothers me for the same reason. I mean, I still like them I guess but yea, Edward/Bella and Bill/Sookie are very similar ships. You know, I feel that as much as they're the same, they're also very different.

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starryeyedmagic July 21 2009, 19:16:59 UTC
Maryann was trying to tell Eric that he needed to make her an offering? Is that sounding familiar?
It does. I think I just forgot because it was really only talked about in like 1 paragraph. I think Sookie was just attacked to introduce the whole maenad storyline which comes into play at the end of the book. Her attack honestly doesn't relate that much to the overall story. But in the show it might and I hope it does. Because Sookie being attacked was such a big deal that it sucks that it was so unimportant overall.

You know what the funny thing is? If someone gave me the choice of who to go into a supernatural battle with, Bill or Sookie...I might choose Sookie. LOL NO JOKE! That girl is fierce. If I listed the amount of BAMF things she's done (I mean in the name of "good", she doesn't go "bad" ever, lol) you would be shocked. I mean, she's fierce to the point of it almost being hilarious that she could take on and defeat so much all by herself. What she did in the s1 finale seems like nothing in comparison. Bill is physically stronger, but Sookie has been really clever and therefore has somehow managed to accomplish more.
The flip side of that of course that were she to go up against a bunch of vamps, she wouldn't stand a chance.
LOL ACTUALLY SHE HAS AND SHE DOES(and she's even been up against worse and survived! And rescued people while doing so!)

I seriously have EPIC love for book!Sookie. She's such a strong character. It makes me sad that they haven't really shown that as much(if at all) in the TV show. But then I remember that we're only mid book 2 and she wasn't nearly as fierce back then. TBH, Bill kind of brings her down. She really does grow a lot as a person when that relationship ends.

You know, I feel that as much as they're the same, they're also very different.
Yes, Edward may be old fashioned and annoyingly over protective but he isn't half as bad as Bill. Well, future!Bill. The Bill I hope TV!Bill never becomes. I'm trying not to judge him by his future actions because they may not happen (AND I HOPE THEY DON'T). But it's come to the point where if book!Sookie ever hooked up with book!Bill again I would just be really offended and disgusted as a woman. Like seriously. But hopefully TV!Bill won't follow the same path.

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