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keeperofqkeys July 17 2005, 20:56:56 UTC
I don't think so. Because if Harry was a Horcrux, then he'd have to die before Voldemort could die completely as well. Even if Harry were to kill Voldemort, he wouldn't truly be dead because the part of him in Harry would still be alive.

So yeah.

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starpaint July 17 2005, 20:59:35 UTC
Well, that's rather the point, isn't it?

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eurora July 17 2005, 21:40:09 UTC
They'd probably have to die at the same time then. Poor guy.

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visservoldemort July 19 2005, 01:07:57 UTC
Or perhaps he realizes right afterward he defeats Voldemort that to prevent his return, he has to kill himself too.

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starpaint July 19 2005, 01:11:00 UTC
That'd be incredibly disturbing. But if there'd be any way for Voldemort to grab onto his last soulbit, between the instant of Harry's death and the evaporation of the bit... then the world would be very, very screwed. (Rather thinking of this in terms of the Wheel of Time, in which the Dark One just needs that sort of instant to pull a person back to life.)

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visservoldemort July 19 2005, 01:23:58 UTC
Ah, but wait! Remember what Dumbledore said about Voldemort's inability to possess Harry's soul? Now that either refutes the entire theory, or implies that Voldie would be unable to regain access to his last bit of soul in his final moments.

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starpaint July 19 2005, 01:28:30 UTC
Depends on whether the two souls have fused or not. I think they have -- Voldemort's traits are a part of Harry's identity, after all -- but it's possible.

Think a better question is whether Harry's going to find all the soulbits, and he'll attack Voldemort prematurely. Voldemort could have made more Horcruxes, after all, and maybe Harry won't find all of the ones we know exist... or Dumbledore could have been wrong.

How could this all fit into one book?!

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eurora July 19 2005, 03:46:06 UTC
JKR said in a recent interview that she estimates it won't be as long as OotP. I seriously hope not, 'cause she won't be able to fit all this in that much.

*is imagining a HUGE book*

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eurora July 19 2005, 03:44:48 UTC
What if, in that split second, Voldemort finds a way to come back? XD;

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starpaint July 19 2005, 13:34:01 UTC
That's what I said, silly.

Re: book length - I don't even want to think about it. So much is going to get left out by default. And the shorter it is, the more that gets left out...

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eurora July 19 2005, 16:41:22 UTC
Yeah - sorry, didn't see it. Was replying through email. ^^;

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visservoldemort July 19 2005, 23:09:20 UTC
If he couldn't come back in over a decade after the first time he was "killed", how could he do it in a split second though?

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eurora July 19 2005, 23:16:37 UTC
Dunno.

Here's an idea... let's say Harry has to AK Voldemort. When he does, his soul is going to split, and assuming that he IS a Horcrux, what if Voldemort's soulbit is what separates and it finds its way back to Voldemort's body? The AK just takes away the lifeforce, but his body's still there, perfectly intact. I wonder if that's even plausible. o_o;

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visservoldemort July 19 2005, 23:33:19 UTC
It makes sense, but I think its way too complex for JK to consider using as a final, dramatic culmination to the books. It'd make for good fanfic though.

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keeperofqkeys July 20 2005, 00:01:56 UTC
Of course it's too complicated, but it's possible. =D The problem is really what the nature of the soulbits and Horcruxes are... if that's too complicated to happen, we have to simplify the picture a little. So if Harry is a Horcrux, Voldemort's soulbit was fused to his, and to kill Voldemort once and for all, he has to die at the same time or shortly after. The end.

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visservoldemort July 20 2005, 00:06:01 UTC
Mm, true, simple enough. Whose tbis, by the way? *curious*

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