Ha! Well this is new...

Oct 23, 2008 22:48

Never had such a ridiculous thing happen to me online... And that's saying something...

So, on this forum I RP at since a little while the matter of creditting artists came up, oocly in the chat. BAsically.. an image was made, I asked if the artist didn't need crediting, they said no, I was ready to leave it at that.
At the same time someone insinuated that because it were only photos it was alright not to credit. Things like; "who is going to find out anyway, honestly?" and "It's uploaded on a stock site so the artist is OK with people using it." and "I don't have to deal wit hthat crediting crap, I use google images." and "I'm not making a profit off it anyway." came up.

I wish I had the chat of that, but alas, it was gone before I knew it could be relevant.

Basically; I corrected him where I felt necessary (mostly the google thing) and pointed out it was just nice and common courtesy to credit the artist whose work you're using, especially if they ask you to (to which the reply was "fuck common courtesy! lol, always wanted ot say that.").
I wasn't telling him to credit, I wasn't accusing anyone of not creditting either. I was only saying; I think it's nice to credit where credit is due and certainly when people ask for it. It was light and breezy (or so it was intended anyway) and mostly supposed to be informative...

Nothing short of a bitchfit happens, guy apparently gets pissed off says he's not arguing anymore. Me and another member point out it's not even really an argument. Seems it doesn't matter and he's pissed off. Well... alright. Conversation continues we both chat as normal... For as far as I see, no harm done, no hard feelings. Although his rather bitter remark that he "is an anarchist devil for not creditting stock footage." was rather amusing.


23 Oct 08, 21:19

Him: SR, I'd appreciate a few words.

23 Oct 08, 21:19

SR: erm... sure..?
23 Oct 08, 21:20

Him: Now, that argument was my fault as much as yours, as I got annoyed at something that, in truth, is trivial.

23 Oct 08, 21:20

Him: However, I would appreciate it if we could both keep conflict such as petty disputes out of the Cbox.

23 Oct 08, 21:20

SR: I wasn't even arguing... I was only pointing out it's nice to credit where credit is due and when it's asked for it...

23 Oct 08, 21:21

Him: Ah ah ah.

23 Oct 08, 21:21

Him: Do you agree or not?

23 Oct 08, 21:21

Different member: I think you guys should take it to PM, if you really must

23 Oct 08, 21:21

Him: Are we going to keep petty disputes out of the cbox?

23 Oct 08, 21:21

Him: I won't take long, [@different member].

23 Oct 08, 21:22

SR: .... wtf? I wasn’t even aware it was a 'dispute' but sure... whatever you want man...

23 Oct 08, 21:22
Him: Alright. And yes, it was a dispute.

23 Oct 08, 21:22

SR: Apparently it was a bigger deal to you than it was to me then...

23 Oct 08, 21:23

Him: I'd just appreciate it if we refrained from getting into those sorts of arguments, as I come onto [the forum] to get away from that sort of crap in the first place.

23 Oct 08, 21:23

Him: Apparently so.

23 Oct 08, 21:24

SR: ... I'll just... not say anything right now as to keep 'petty disputes' out of the cbox then...

23 Oct 08, 21:24

Him: That would seem to be best course of action. Thanks for understanding

23 Oct 08, 21:25

SR: I don't understand, to be honest, but that's neither here nor there...

23 Oct 08, 21:26

Him: Regardless of whether or not you understand, we should leave it.

23 Oct 08, 21:27

SR: Yes, I shall before I fail to use my backspace timely.

23 Oct 08, 21:33

Owner: Um, is there an image here or at the wiki or something where I don't give credit to the artist? I do try and link and get permission where I can, and tend not to use images I can't get permission for, so if y'all see something PM me and the link to the page where it is used uncredited.:)

23 Oct 08, 21:34

Owner: Cheers!

23 Oct 08, 21:34

SR: Oh... one more thing [his name], before I forget.

23 Oct 08, 21:34

SR: next time you want to have a word with me, I'd appreciate it if you did so via PM or IM, so that I don't have to censor myself for the sake of [the forum].

23 Oct 08, 21:35

SR: And that's the last you'll hear from me on the cbox.. I would've PMed you but can't discern which account belongs to you...

23 Oct 08, 21:35

Him: The "[main account name]" account, SR.

23 Oct 08, 21:38

SR: Which isn't one of the active members right now and i wanted you to get the PM right away, not in half an hour.

23 Oct 08, 21:39

Him: Well, that's the only account whose PMs I check, but that's not important right now, seeing as we've sorted it out.

23 Oct 08, 21:42

Owner: Ok guys, take it to PM's. For the master account of someone you wanna contact always check the ID Thread. thank you.

... Now this could just be me but ... If YOU came here to get away from 'crap like this' ('crap' being what? common courtesy? copyright laws? people criticizing you? people boasting their opinion on subjects like that? WHAT?!) then why the hell must /I/ conform?

It's not even so much that you want to keep fights out of the chat, that I can understand but if you come somewhere ot get away from crap, it's YOUR BLOODY RESPONSIBILITY TO STAY AWAY FROM IT! Not mine! You didn't even HAVE to reply as the crediting issue had NOTHING to do with you, I only asked if the pictures needed to be credited to someone else. Why the hell did you get involved in the first place?

And nice going on confronting me about it en-publique, giving me very little choice other than to agree with you or seem like the newbe bitch who only wants to fight. Yes, I could've PM'd you, hur hur, I tried, but the problem is a little evident from the last part of the chat.

Also; owner... I love you, you're great but, wtf? A bit late to tell us to take it to PMs... would've been nice to say this when "different member" said it.

Time to take a few big steps back from the OOC happening there I think... I would PM him to tell huim my concerns but I don't think he's even worth my time anymore... Makes for a nice rant though.

Not friends-locked because I don't care if he sees this, in fact, I hope he gets wind of this (and he probably will) so he can read this.

YOU, sir, are an ASSHAT. You're an asshat if you don't credit the artist, you're an asshat for pretending to handle this in a civilized fashion while cornering me into agreeing with you.
Henceforth; I shall avoid you, I do not like you.

rant, asshattery, rp, drama

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