Vulcans and Interspecies Bondings

Dec 09, 2009 19:52

I watched the Blood Fever episode of Voyager last night ( Read more... )

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recumbentgoat December 10 2009, 02:32:43 UTC
well, yalegirl03 has a story about 'mail order brides' where the Vulcans are doing just that. and there was another story out there set in the reboot where Vulcans were getting a rep for being violent and suddenly going into pon farr because of the genocide. the name escapes me. but yeah, in reboot, it makes sense for me.

in tos, obviously there wouldn't be the urgency of having to do that and perhaps marrying out would take place at a slower rate because Vulcans are so culturally conservative, etc.

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teaoli December 10 2009, 02:37:13 UTC
That was part of StarTrekFanWriter's (or, as she's known in this comm, startrekwriter's) How Mighty Have Fallen -- which is a series of short stories taking place in her Descartes Error universe.

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rotae December 10 2009, 02:38:30 UTC
Damn! You beat me! And with LINKS! Talk about a pro ;) XDDD

Peace,
Rotae

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recumbentgoat December 10 2009, 02:45:51 UTC
yeah, i thought of that, but i'm pretty sure i haven't read her story and that it's a different one i'm thinking of that was posted a while ago in the comm.

there was a scene of some Vulcan scientist that had forcibly melded with another scientist on some planet. i think he'd killed her too? maybe it *is* startrekwriter. idk lol

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teaoli December 10 2009, 02:48:40 UTC
In one of the early stories from How the Mighty, a Vulcan scientist kills all the other (all male) members of his team and then melds with another (the only female) scientist who happens to already be in love with him....

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recumbentgoat December 10 2009, 02:51:22 UTC
ohhhhhh ok. damn how did i not finish reading that then. lol thank you!

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teaoli December 10 2009, 03:07:47 UTC
since it's a series of shorts, rather than one cohesive story, it was probably easy to forget/get lost/whatever.

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threeb_1973 December 10 2009, 03:10:05 UTC
Thanks for the recommendation. I'll make sure to read this.

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Thanks! startrekwriter December 10 2009, 11:43:13 UTC
Thanks for the rec!

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rotae December 10 2009, 02:37:40 UTC
How the Mighty Have Fallen? It was something like that, LOL.

Peace,
Rotae

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Yes. startrekwriter December 10 2009, 11:44:25 UTC
It's here: How the Mighty Have Fallen.

Its a collection of shorts all dealing with the topic of Vulcan-human relationships.

Thanks -

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threeb_1973 December 10 2009, 03:14:08 UTC
I agree that there probably wouldn't be much marrying out in TOS because the species wasn't endangered. Also, there seemed to be at least some xenophobia since Spock always tried to suppress his human half. I always found that strange for a species that supposedly embraces IDIC. Any thoughts?

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recumbentgoat December 10 2009, 03:20:35 UTC
well, i'm sure there's always a contingent of folks who will always be fearful of what's different from them and apparently, even though it's highly illogical, the Vulcans can't escape that either. lol

given that Spock's family has had a long history of interacting with humans-- maybe they're the more progressive kind of Vulcan?

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hateya_habiba December 10 2009, 08:05:32 UTC
given that Spock's family has had a long history of interacting with humans-- maybe they're the more progressive kind of Vulcan?

You're right. Sarek wasn't just Earth's ambassador, but didn't great-granddaddy Solkar land on Earth during Cochrane's time? Wasn't he the first Vulcan to meet the humans? In a sense, Spock was an inevitability.

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recumbentgoat December 10 2009, 12:12:39 UTC
yes! Soltar was the first Vulcan to make contact with humans. i think that was in Enterprise or something.

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cleojones December 10 2009, 03:38:01 UTC
I've always thought IDIC not meaning that in a sexual or relationship sense, but in a purely scientific sense. Vulcans are a curious culture, they enjoy the diversity the Universe has to offer, but I think we're taking the IDIC to mean the other thing, when it doesn't.

As for the hypocrisy? Well, that's one thing many species, including our own has in common with Vulcans.

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