Spock, Kirk, McCoy, and Uhura?: How the movie changes the traditional trinity of TOS

[poetics124]

Spock, Kirk, McCoy.   The three Amigos.  BFF's.  The orginal bromances.  Or as I like to call them, the holy trinity of Star Trek. They were the formula for the friendships that were formed among later casts in the franchise and any person, even if they aren't fans of the series or movies can name them and their roles in the show.

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[madeelly]

I don't exactly agree. =/ I mean, I don't think that Spock's character and his role has changed that much (if at all) from the original series. The only that has changed are the circumstances. This Spock has gone through changes in minutes that took Spock Prime years to go through. This, I think, is due to the destruction of his homeworld. Spock will always be Spock, I just feel that the alternate reality has made him grow more quickly than originally. Spock has always been a major character, if not the major character. Yes, Kirk is the captain of the Enterprise, which does bestow a certain gravitas on his character that Spock does not have. But Spock is the one that everyone remembers and/or loves; he certainly has more episodes about him as a developing character than Kirk does. It's always been Kirk AND Spock, and I don't think that's changed.

If anything, the one who has changed is Uhura. I think that her character is what Roddenberry wanted her to be, but due to sixties' censorship, sexism and racism could not make her. I also don't think that she is quite up there with the big three. I do agree that in this movie, though, she is more equal to McCoy than in TOS. Which is why I want Star Trek XII to be called "Return of the Bromance."

I love the Spock/Uhura relationship dearly and I think that it adds a certain depth to the character that we only caught glimpses of in TOS. But I think that it's incredibly important that the three of them (Kirk, McCoy and Spock) are...you know, the three of them. Kirk will love both of them and his ship more than any woman; just as Spock will learn to love because of them.

Uhura's role has definitely increased, and she means a lot to Spock in the new movie (and, perhaps, in TOS). But I feel like she isn't one of the triad because not only is her impact not as significant, it is nonexistent for McCoy and shows very little for Kirk.

But this is why we need more movies, to see her relationship with them develop. I'm definitely going to be on the outlook for good fic.

[poetics124]

"Uhura's role has definitely increased, and she means a lot to Spock in the new movie (and, perhaps, in TOS). But I feel like she isn't one of the triad because not only is her impact not as significant, it is nonexistent for McCoy and shows very little for Kirk."

Actually this is very interesting because in this movie the same argument could apply to McCoy. His influence on Spock is minimal and he barely knows Uhura. His main connection to the action is his friendship with Kirk as he hasn't developed a relationship with Spock enough to count (well, other than to call him a green blooded hobgoblin lol)

I would even argue, in fact, that if you didn't have any knowledge of Trek lore and didn't know of the relationship between Bones, Jim, and Spock in the Prime Universe and watched this movie, you would think that Uhura was of a bigger influence tha Bones in terms of the Star Trek Universe and her relationship with Spock and Kirk.

Which is why I'm interested in seeing how this develops in the future. Could Uhura go back to lesser influence in future movies? Sure. But there is also a chance that she gets a bigger role and her dynamic is added to Spock/Kirk/McCoy.

how the movie changes the trad trinity of TOS

[cavecanis]

I saw the movie for the fifth time yesterday and came away with a revelation I had missed before. With the altered time line (Vulcan destroyed, Amanda killed, etc) the whole set up for TOS and the movies and shows that followed are no longer valid. In essence JJ Abrams has deleted the canon from the point of the time line alteration forward. It's all up for grabs now, an alternative universe just as Uhura points out. We have no idea who will turn up where with whom or for how long.

Buckle up is right!

Cave Canis