comment wrangling
anonymous
November 19 2010, 15:53:04 UTC
What do you do about bashing comments? Suppose you post meta. Suppose, for the sake of argument at least, that the meta is not itself wildly biased or bashing. And suppose the comments start turning into a character war. Do you freeze comments? Delete comments if they are OTT hateful? Simply state in replies that you don't appreciate character-bashing on your LJ and please to be having a civilized discussion? Defriend bashers and flock your meta?
This hasn't actually happened to me, but I've seen it happen, and I was reminded of it by the discussion of professional reviewers who aren't haters themselves but whose comment threads have the reputation of being bashing hotbeds.
Re: comment wrangling
anonymous
November 19 2010, 15:56:46 UTC
Depends on where it's posted. If it's in my journal, I will absolutely freeze bashing threads with a note that I appreciate the response, but bashing isn't allowed at my journal and a request for them to please refrain in the future.
I wouldn't delete comments, but I might screen them if they're laced with profanity or insults. I do defriend bashers. I don't have time for that sort of nonsense.
Re: comment wrangling
anonymous
November 19 2010, 17:25:33 UTC
Good question. I saw that some were saying they quit reading certain reviewers because they didn't control bashing in the comments. However, I have also seen reviewers accused of bias when they start deleting or editing comments, so there's no way to really win. Maureen Ryan probably has the best up-front, no-bashing, no wanking warning on her comment page. I've never noticed whether she deletes stuff or not.
I monitor anon comments on my LJ, but I'm such a non-controversial nobody that I've never had to delete or edit anyone.
I hate when an LJ gets mentioned on meme and then everyone with an opposing opinion goes over and dogpiles on it. If my friends want to shit on my opinion, fine, but anons out of the woodwork? No. I would shut that shit down.
Re: comment wrangling
anonymous
November 19 2010, 17:29:48 UTC
I hate when an LJ gets mentioned on meme and then everyone with an opposing opinion goes over and dogpiles on it. If my friends want to shit on my opinion, fine, but anons out of the woodwork? No. I would shut that shit down.
da. I agree with that on personal journals, but will add that right should be revoked if people crosspost to public comms. If you're posting in public forums, then you invite debate and the possible criticism that goes with it.
If it's just a personal LJ post though, then IMO it shouldn't be mocked.
Re: comment wrangling
anonymous
November 19 2010, 17:39:43 UTC
OP
I wasn't so much thinking of bashing of me or my opinions or other posters' opinions (though that's certainly an issue) as of bashing show or characters, which is more of a dilemma to me partly because in some sense it's less of a deal. I mean, no one is really getting hurt if someone piles on Sam or Dean or Cas, the way they potentially are if commenters are directly insulting each other on my LJ, but OTOH I don't want to be hosting a hatefest. And as long as the post they are commenting on is at my LJ, I'm not sure I feel any differently about character-bashing if I've linked from heavymeta or something.
Re: comment wrangling
anonymous
November 19 2010, 17:48:47 UTC
ayrt
I was thinking in terms of character bashing, tbh. If someone posts something that's really character bashing under the guise of meta to spn_heavymeta, then I see nothing wrong with them getting a swarm of anons calling them out on it.
But if it's just something they've posted in their journal, I think it should be hands off. Worthy of a minor discussion here at meme, perhaps, but anons shouldn't be going to their journal and flaming them for it.
If you're talking bashing of individual posters, though, then ugh. No. That should never be acceptable. Insults and namecalling should be left to the trolls.
Re: comment wrangling
anonymous
November 19 2010, 18:00:00 UTC
ayrt
I think we may be talking at cross-purposes, or at least about different examples. My hypothetical situation wasn't commenters calling a bashing meta on the bashing, but bashing wars starting up in the comments of a non-bashing meta.
Re: comment wrangling
anonymous
November 19 2010, 18:05:27 UTC
ayrt
I think you're right. I wasn't responding directly to your comment though, I was replying to a line in a comment left to your post saying "I hate when an LJ gets mentioned on meme and then everyone with an opposing opinion goes over and dogpiles on it. If my friends want to shit on my opinion, fine, but anons out of the woodwork? No. I would shut that shit down."
Re: comment wrangling
anonymous
November 19 2010, 18:10:53 UTC
ayrt
Ah, I see. Yes, I agree and have no problems with things like commenters calling that Dean-bashing meta on its Dean-bashing. Though I mostly think that anonymous commenting should happen here, where we're all anonymous, and if you want to call people on stuff they've signed you should be willing to sign your response.
This hasn't actually happened to me, but I've seen it happen, and I was reminded of it by the discussion of professional reviewers who aren't haters themselves but whose comment threads have the reputation of being bashing hotbeds.
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I wouldn't delete comments, but I might screen them if they're laced with profanity or insults. I do defriend bashers. I don't have time for that sort of nonsense.
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I monitor anon comments on my LJ, but I'm such a non-controversial nobody that I've never had to delete or edit anyone.
I hate when an LJ gets mentioned on meme and then everyone with an opposing opinion goes over and dogpiles on it. If my friends want to shit on my opinion, fine, but anons out of the woodwork? No. I would shut that shit down.
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da. I agree with that on personal journals, but will add that right should be revoked if people crosspost to public comms. If you're posting in public forums, then you invite debate and the possible criticism that goes with it.
If it's just a personal LJ post though, then IMO it shouldn't be mocked.
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I wasn't so much thinking of bashing of me or my opinions or other posters' opinions (though that's certainly an issue) as of bashing show or characters, which is more of a dilemma to me partly because in some sense it's less of a deal. I mean, no one is really getting hurt if someone piles on Sam or Dean or Cas, the way they potentially are if commenters are directly insulting each other on my LJ, but OTOH I don't want to be hosting a hatefest. And as long as the post they are commenting on is at my LJ, I'm not sure I feel any differently about character-bashing if I've linked from heavymeta or something.
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I was thinking in terms of character bashing, tbh. If someone posts something that's really character bashing under the guise of meta to spn_heavymeta, then I see nothing wrong with them getting a swarm of anons calling them out on it.
But if it's just something they've posted in their journal, I think it should be hands off. Worthy of a minor discussion here at meme, perhaps, but anons shouldn't be going to their journal and flaming them for it.
If you're talking bashing of individual posters, though, then ugh. No. That should never be acceptable. Insults and namecalling should be left to the trolls.
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I think we may be talking at cross-purposes, or at least about different examples. My hypothetical situation wasn't commenters calling a bashing meta on the bashing, but bashing wars starting up in the comments of a non-bashing meta.
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I think you're right. I wasn't responding directly to your comment though, I was replying to a line in a comment left to your post saying "I hate when an LJ gets mentioned on meme and then everyone with an opposing opinion goes over and dogpiles on it. If my friends want to shit on my opinion, fine, but anons out of the woodwork? No. I would shut that shit down."
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Ah, I see. Yes, I agree and have no problems with things like commenters calling that Dean-bashing meta on its Dean-bashing. Though I mostly think that anonymous commenting should happen here, where we're all anonymous, and if you want to call people on stuff they've signed you should be willing to sign your response.
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