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9x17 Episode Discussion

[anonymous]

ITT

Re: 9x17 Episode Discussion

[anonymous]

I've missed the last couple of episodes, but I really enjoyed this one! I especially liked the ex-nun character.

My major disgruntlement is the implication that Josie saved Henry because she was in love with him - and I'm just a little tired of that trope, especially as she is the only Woman of Letters. There was that earlier conversation about how Henry had a family so I think it was ambiguous enough that I can choose to believe that is just what the demon thought and that Josie saved Henry because she thought he had more people relying on him.

Re: 9x17 Episode Discussion

[anonymous]

I thought it hadn't aired yet seeing as nobody commented in the thread.

Re: 9x17 Episode Discussion

[anonymous]

NA

Well now you know!

Re: 9x17 Episode Discussion

[anonymous]

na

I had to check twitter to get any details. It sounds like it was a pretty good episode with lots of stuff that sounds up my alley. Looking forward to checking it out and maybe trying to get some discussion going later.

Re: 9x17 Episode Discussion

[anonymous]

ayrt

I was a little surprised at the lack of comments, but I definitely enjoyed the episode. It set up some interesting things regarding souls and Abaddon, had interesting side characters, had a MOTW that turned into an episode directly intersected with the main plot (and I love when the show used to do that), and as I said, I haven't seen the last couple of episodes so I was definitely intrigued by what's happening with Dean re: Mark of Cain.

Re: 9x17 Episode Discussion

[anonymous]

It's the first episode I've actually been engaged at all by in a long time, and I was so interested in it I forgot to blog about it at all. No complaints except the one someone else mentioned about Josie's love for Henry. Solid episode for the first time in a while!!

Re: 9x17 Episode Discussion

[anonymous]

DA

Bless you nonnies.

/stares at the dl to go faster

Re: 9x17 Episode Discussion

[anonymous]

I agree with all of this. I think the ambiguity worked just fine, and I think Josie was thinking that Henry had a wife and kid and she didn't have dependents, so she did it out of the kindness of her heart. That was brave.

Misha did a good job with this. There's only one spot where I wish a shot had been held a little longer before going to break or a cut to scene.

/nerd

And the more I see of Henry, the more I think Sam resembles him, so good casting there.

Re: 9x17 Episode Discussion

[anonymous]

that pissed me off as well. it was totally unnecessary and i thought cheapened her as a character.

Re: 9x17 Episode Discussion

[anonymous]

The souls in a jar and the demon killing knives, tho.

Well we got some good Sam close-ups and next week we get Dean in the shower and angry Sam.

Re: 9x17 Episode Discussion

[anonymous]

Very engaging for an episode so SamandDean lite.

I don't have a problem with Josie sacrificing herself for Henry's welfare for whatever reason. I didn't take it as necessarily romantic love and agree with the nonnie leaning on the explicit contrast of Henry having a family to live for. Whatever. Any excuse will do to illustrate the point of what a willing sacrifice of self for another costs. The show positively loves that "Take ME!" theme. (I love it too - not romantically, though.)

The parallels between S9 Dean and S4 Sam are beyond coincidental and that satisfies me as well.

Re: 9x17 Episode Discussion

[anonymous]

I loved competent Sam and I loved the recorded exorcism (what an adorable dork) and Sam getting huffy at that rude kid in the diner. And I liked seeing Josie/Abaddon and Henry again. Overall a fast paced and decent ep.

Re: 9x17 Episode Discussion

[anonymous]

Sam and his robust phone and his recorded exorcism in easy reach, was so excellent.

Re: 9x17 Episode Discussion

[anonymous]

Some people on my Tumblr dash were making fun of the phone exorcism thing and I was kind of like wtf. That was really smart and something Sam so would do. I loved it. Although, I would have preferred for him to complete the exorcism out loud after she smashed the phone, but I guess the knife worked just as well.

Re: 9x17 Episode Discussion

[anonymous]

Doesn't it take years to turn a human soul into a demon? Even with time running faster in Hell, how was that supposed to work? And how were they going to turn into demons on a shelf in the basement? And why was Abaddon threatening Julia - wouldn't she just have killed her if she figured out Julia had seen anything? And I didn't really get the thing with Dean and Crowley - why was saving Crowley from a hunter supposed to make Dean re-commit to the Abaddon hunt? Why did Dean call Crowley in the first place?

This was a lot better than last week, but man, I feel like the plotting is really slapdash these days.