O.M.F.G.

Jan 18, 2009 19:59

I am beyond appalled at the epic and escalating levels of fail coming out of the latest round of debates on writing, racism, Othering and cultural appropriation. rydra-wong has roundups here, here, here, here, here, and hereHere's the thing, fellow white people. It's simple. Don't be an asshole. And if you decide you need to be as asshole, own it. ( Read more... )

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abyssinia4077 January 19 2009, 03:48:42 UTC
I think my favorite part is where the people of color need the white person to give them permission and show them how to do something to speak out against racism.

And where the people of color just aren't smart enough or properly trained in literary criticism to be allowed to have opinions.

Or just...SO MUCH FAIL OMG

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ultranos_fic January 19 2009, 04:08:05 UTC
I still say we've identified the Admirals of the Failboat Armada. (So needs to be an icon)

Yeah, that...ARGH. WORDS FAIL ME.

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abyssinia4077 January 19 2009, 04:18:51 UTC
(so does need an icon)

(OY)

I still guarantee that most of the Poc involved in this discussion have WAY more literary criticism training/ability than I do and I still thing they are predominately right in this and...oh, gee, maybe that's because I'm stupid? Oy vey. I don't even know what I'm saying anymore.

the words, they are failing.

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splash_the_cat January 19 2009, 05:19:12 UTC
Admirals of the Failboat Armada.

That is win.

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sholio January 19 2009, 20:23:06 UTC
I still say we've identified the Admirals of the Failboat Armada.

*hands you an Internet*

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splash_the_cat January 19 2009, 05:18:44 UTC
Oh god. I know. I... I can't even begin to quantify the amount of fail witnessed in the last few days.

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abyssinia4077 January 19 2009, 05:29:50 UTC
I mean, there's been a lot of not-fail and a lot of good stuff said too (and the remyth project is amazing) but...the fail is staggering.

[it always seems to happen - the discussion starts our relatively calm and level-headed and then continues and then suddenly the privileged group snaps and there is MASSIVE FAIL. Just once if we can have this type of conversation with that....maybe it would be a sign of taking a babystep in the right direction]

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abyssinia4077 January 19 2009, 18:02:08 UTC
bwah. and now they just did the academic journalist version of "since you're all big meanines who won't play by our rules we're going home and we're bringing out ball with us"

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splash_the_cat January 19 2009, 19:45:48 UTC
Oh! And now even though you have to read a whole book to comment intelligently on it and have your interpretation taken seriously, apparently having to read up and understand the context of an lj post about a topic to comment intelligently on it and have your interpretation taken seriously is just ridiculous and way too much to ask.

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abyssinia4077 January 19 2009, 20:53:56 UTC
I KNOW!

(also if you are not dirt-poor you cannot experience racism)
(also racism only gets to be what white men think it is and people who experience it daily are so irrational about it they have lost all ability to recognize it)
(and it's....gah, I can't even anymore...)

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dharma_slut January 21 2009, 09:30:19 UTC
Feminism, too. It's all about white men, who like the Third Wave better than the second wave, because the third wave feminists are more easy-going.

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