I miss Buffy
I miss Buffy. I miss the whole finding the B-verse and finding fanfic and finding people to rec fics to, and getting recs, and the Buffy community where small things led to long discussions and I have Buffy thoughts. I was playing on the Buffy Board for a while, and I might go back, but it's not as much fun. The mods said that people were leaving because of spirited discussions (arguments) - mostly me and one of the old timers - so we were taken to task. No more really vigorous debate allowed - so no more exploration and passion. Just kind of fluffy stuff. I have friends there, and i like the people by and large - but I miss Buffy.
I want to pull it apart and gnaw on the bones and find tidbits, then rebuild it and admire it. I want my B-verse community back. It's an ache.
Buffy thoughts....
What did happen in the Initiative? Spike is taken, and 2 weeks later he appears just fine. But he has no idea that they did surgery on him, or even that the blood is drugged. What was the point of chipping vampires to start with? Why didn't the chip kick in until he was away from the facility? Why were they so desperate to find him? Was he the only chipped vampire? Did they want their chip back? Was the chip something that could be reused? For that matter, if the locator hadn't been flushed, what were they going to do? How do you keep a low profile during a public kidnapping?
Having rewatched parts of season 5, I am convinced that the love of Xander's life was Riley. Xander actually wriggled with joy when he saw Riley, fawned on him, repeated every word Riley said, talked about Riley as if he was the supreme being. He never behaved that way with Anya or Cordelia - they were more like trophies, not objects of adoration. Season 4 should have featured the big love triangle between Xander, Riley and Buffy - and the chemistry award goes to the guys.
I really love Illyria - finally. It's taken me this long to get to that point. Wesley is so vulnerable to her, and on so many level. But as time goes on I kinda find Fred annoying. I mean, Fred just after they find her is great, but Fred and Gunn never seemed to have the chemistry, and she was so willing to let him take the lead. Then season five Fred became a Fred icon, her character was to be the Good person who was never tempted. I don't think Wesley was in love with her, I think he idealized her.
I still think that the best relationship shown in the verse is Wesley and Lilah - not a healthy relationship but they were equals. Lilah was the only real adult on either show - independent, amoral, opportunistic, and completely unashamed. I love the way that Wesley and she worked out their darkness, and I really think they had no chance in hell simply because they would never actually live in the same universal construct of right and wrong but in their bubble they were complex, hot, and had so much sexual tension the screen melted.
Oh, and why is it that no one ever seems to take into account the fact that the First, in season seven, was messing with everyone's mind. I've had some passionate discussion on the B-board with someone who insists that the only times the First was present was in the few scenes that it was shown. But the First is a mindf*cker extraordinaire, but it didn't try to break up the group, fracture relationships, and take part in the mutiny? And, for that matter, exactly how did the First appear to Giles - why was he so determined to kill Spike? I'm thinking the First appeared to him as Angelus - delighting in their torture, and warning him about Spike, or maybe assuring him that spike was really safe.
Does anyone else miss the B-verse community - I think it filled a place in me, and I've watched and loved all sorts of other shows but none of them fill that place.
I want to pull it apart and gnaw on the bones and find tidbits, then rebuild it and admire it. I want my B-verse community back. It's an ache.
Buffy thoughts....
What did happen in the Initiative? Spike is taken, and 2 weeks later he appears just fine. But he has no idea that they did surgery on him, or even that the blood is drugged. What was the point of chipping vampires to start with? Why didn't the chip kick in until he was away from the facility? Why were they so desperate to find him? Was he the only chipped vampire? Did they want their chip back? Was the chip something that could be reused? For that matter, if the locator hadn't been flushed, what were they going to do? How do you keep a low profile during a public kidnapping?
Having rewatched parts of season 5, I am convinced that the love of Xander's life was Riley. Xander actually wriggled with joy when he saw Riley, fawned on him, repeated every word Riley said, talked about Riley as if he was the supreme being. He never behaved that way with Anya or Cordelia - they were more like trophies, not objects of adoration. Season 4 should have featured the big love triangle between Xander, Riley and Buffy - and the chemistry award goes to the guys.
I really love Illyria - finally. It's taken me this long to get to that point. Wesley is so vulnerable to her, and on so many level. But as time goes on I kinda find Fred annoying. I mean, Fred just after they find her is great, but Fred and Gunn never seemed to have the chemistry, and she was so willing to let him take the lead. Then season five Fred became a Fred icon, her character was to be the Good person who was never tempted. I don't think Wesley was in love with her, I think he idealized her.
I still think that the best relationship shown in the verse is Wesley and Lilah - not a healthy relationship but they were equals. Lilah was the only real adult on either show - independent, amoral, opportunistic, and completely unashamed. I love the way that Wesley and she worked out their darkness, and I really think they had no chance in hell simply because they would never actually live in the same universal construct of right and wrong but in their bubble they were complex, hot, and had so much sexual tension the screen melted.
Oh, and why is it that no one ever seems to take into account the fact that the First, in season seven, was messing with everyone's mind. I've had some passionate discussion on the B-board with someone who insists that the only times the First was present was in the few scenes that it was shown. But the First is a mindf*cker extraordinaire, but it didn't try to break up the group, fracture relationships, and take part in the mutiny? And, for that matter, exactly how did the First appear to Giles - why was he so determined to kill Spike? I'm thinking the First appeared to him as Angelus - delighting in their torture, and warning him about Spike, or maybe assuring him that spike was really safe.
Does anyone else miss the B-verse community - I think it filled a place in me, and I've watched and loved all sorts of other shows but none of them fill that place.