Someone finally put this up

[speedowsu03]

Proud To Be White

Someone finally said it.
How many are actually paying attention to this?

There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc.
And then there are just Americans.

You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me "White boy," "Cracker," "Honkey,"
"Whitey," "

Comments

[ivy_chic]

I understand why you would want to have pride in your roots...but you can't ignore the fact that white people have it waaaaaaay better in this country than any minority group except for perhaps asians.

A few facts from http://www.census.gov/...

- Real median income did not change between 2002 and 2003 for non-Hispanic white households (about $48,000), black households (about $30,000)
- Real median household income remained unchanged between 2002 and 2003 in three of the four census regions - Northeast ($46,742), Midwest ($44,732) and West ($46,820). The exception was the South, where income declined 1.5 percent. The South continued to have the lowest median household income of all four regions ($39,823). (The south of course having the highest concentration of blacks and hispanics.)
- The South was the only region to show an increase in its uninsured rate in 2003, up from 17.5 percent in 2002 to 18.0 percent. The health insurance coverage rates of people in the South and in the West (17.6 percent) were not different in 2003.

Point is there's a reason why there are organizations needed to support young blacks going into college. Why there are organizations needed to boost pride. Do you think people meant to live in the ghetto? They were forced there partly due to circumstance. There is a very small part of the population that can rise above thier parents income.

And what is "white pride"? I don't understand that. I understand "Irish Pride" or "German pride" but what is this white pride you speak of? I get where you're coming from, however understand that as a white male in today's society there is a higher percent chance that you'll get a job over someone who doesn't have white skin. And there is my shpeel ;)

[speedowsu03]

So it didn't mention anything about income on there. It just said some stuff about how we can't say ANY derogitory term while other races can call us names with no circumstance. And how we can have "white" colleges, or fraternities or anything of the such.
And due to the last election in Michigan, race doesn't give white people the edge over anyone or vice versa thanks to proposal 2. Now race won't be looked at as a determining factor. If someone of a different race is going to get a job over me, I would like to know it's because they are better at it than me, not because they needed to fill a quota.
And yes I knew a topic like this would cause an uprising.

[ivy_chic]

"And due to the last election in Michigan, race doesn't give white people the edge over anyone or vice versa thanks to proposal 2."

Try and prove racism. It's insanely hard to do. But it still exists.

And again...what do you mean by "White Pride" ? You're asking to be able to have it but what does it mean to you to have "White Pride"?

And I know you knew that this topic would spark debate because it's not so cut and dry as all that.

[speedowsu03]

Well just look at the list of stuff in the post. Why can't we have a White fraternity, or White History Month, or even a White college?
And by white pride I mean being able to say anything about me being white without being called a racist for saying "Hey I'm white and I'm happy I'm white."

[ivy_chic]

Darlin, look at any history book...it's chock full of white people. When we study history in public school we usually study presidents and what they did (such as wars and politics). Besides them making an effort to point out the things that black people did you almost never hear about them. How many prominent whtie figures can you name compared to black figures? We certainly don't NEED a white history month. As for the white fraternity, I don't have an answer for that. However can you really tell me that there are no all white fraternities on your campus? Because there are on mine. And for white colleges...up until about 50 years ago blacks were rarely seen in college. Many kids from inner city Detroit public schools don't even think they can go to college, or don't aspire to. Black colleges can seek out these kids who would otherwise not think of going. Did you ever think you weren't going to go to college? "Texas, California, and Florida had low levels of minority access to higher education even before losing race-conscious affirmative action." - http://www.civilrightsproject.harvard.edu/research/affirmativeaction/tristate.php

There are still more whites going to college than minorities even percentage-wise.

ANd when have you ever wanted to say i'm happy i'm white? If someone says they're happy they're something they usually have a reason for it. I'm happy i'm mixed because I have great hair (self call) and I feel that i'm more tolerant of other races and people I don't nec. understand due to my position as someone who is mixed. I also know what it's like to not be liked and discriminated because of my color. Have you ever really felt bad because of a derogatory racial slur that someone threw at you?

I honestly think you need to think all of this out before you start throwing around statements such as why is there not a white history month. Look at any history lesson...five times out of ten they'll mention maybe one black person, if that.

[speedowsu03]

As for the history part of your arguement yes we can name more whites than blacks. However after the slaves were freed with Lincoln, blacks could have ran for president. How many have you heard of that ran for it? None in my mind, so they choose not to.
Yes I can honestly say there are no all white fraternities on my campus. They may be mostly white yes, but due to being classified as unjust, unequal, and racist we can not claim it to be white. So if someone of a different skin color wants to join we have to give them that chance or else our national chapter would hear about it and shut us down.
Yes I have felt bad beacause of a racial slur someone threw at me, I go to school in detroit. There are numerous racies there. And nine times out of ten it's the black communtiy that complains about being in college or starts throwing around derogatory terms to whites. But let's not bring this down to a black vs. white thing here. there were many races mentioned on that post. and besides, it was all in good fun.

[ivy_chic]

After the Civil War blacks could run for president? Do you really think that? I certainly hope not. To run for president you need to be rich, and not have the majority of the country have racist views against your race. Until the 1960s black didn't even have a remote chance of becoming president. It's not that they were "choosing not to".
And although I can see where you're coming from considering in Detroit you're the minority, but most places in the U.S. you're not.

[speedowsu03]

and I'm also looking at today, not 1960. so most people choose not to run, not because they can't, but because they feel they won't make. I can honestly say that if a minority ran for president and made some valid points that I stood behind, I would vote for him rather than joe schmoe whit guy.

[ivy_chic]

The fact is an insanely small percentage of the population here and now can run for president. You need to have amazing financial backing. Most would-be black candidates don't have that.

[alecsandyr]

"And there is my shpeel"

Ya misspelled 'spiel.'
...you anti-German doodoohead

(that's what you get for calling me fat)

[ivy_chic]

fatty fat fatty :P