May Offend!!!

Mar 31, 2004 08:06

Convo with Mags. sorry if its hard to follow

why is it a bigger deal when the female gets groped than a guy? i don't think i'd be bothered if an old lady messed with you

guys dont get raped by old ladies half often as girls do by guys

not to say i'm stupid, but i was just wondering

it is the same as asking why did only guys go to war in ww2

our women are our country

for some reason, that impressed me

i for one would *defend* my country

and you didn't have to conquer it either *smiles*

i wont fight or attack, that is why i wouldnt join the army unless i was conscripted

*nods* i'm not of that nature either. i figure there is so much that can be worked out through discussions

im not a pacifist, but i dont believe in offensive war

are you saying i'm a pacifist?

im not saying anything

i realize 'pacifism' is supposed to represent peaceful settlings of problems, but i would insult to be called one. i see pacifists as people that back down from a problem by trying to get on everyone's good side

I see pacifism as heading your head in the sand

yeah people like that irritate me along as those that have an opinion that's based only one what their parents have told them

i also hate the people who put down the government whatever they do, good or bad

kyle is a very good example of that

he is just a pretentious ignorant, stupid, young fool

you defend to say he isnt a bad person. well i havent said he was :P

yeah some people like stupid pretentious fools

^^

none of us can claim to know absolutely, at least not without accepting other views

exactly. that's why i don't like to argue. i correct when i know i'm right, but that's it

i dont dislike people because i dont agree, i dislike them them because they are not likeable for my personality

there will always be people that automatically don't mesh with your personality, but if you at least tried to work with them, kudos to you

im usually very good at judging who id like and would interest me beforehand

so the ones that you see as pretentious attract equally pretentious friends?

no

different people attract different people

so what keeps your attention? in general

dunno reallyn but i know it inside

kyle, i dont like because he makes too many mistakes

vincent, i dont like because he takes extraordinary and disturbing lengths to get into your head

the really amazing thing about you is that your brain is always working. you can look at someone and observe them enough to know what type of person they are. i think few people are really good at that. i have my 'trial and error' method which is usually a hit or miss on judging someone

i liked you cus you compliment my own personality

i'm more of a feeler than a thinker i guess.

the basis for friendship is never common interests

thats a mistake people make

for example, me and kyle like a lot of the same things

but we arent friends

common interests make for boredom?

me and scott are like playmates, but im friends with him cus i have to mother him and in return i have fun

no, but if thats tthe basis for friendship then you are no more than acquaintances

i can't say it's a lot like that with rich because i don't have to mother him thankfully.

so scott's an aquaintance?

no

at school, he could make friends with everyone, but fundamentally he was an odd one out

he is a big kid and hasn't grasped real life fully yet

that made him an outcast like me

he has loads of mates, but they are all based on interests

he knows i can be more than tjhat if he wants it of me

and i know he is trustworthy and reliable in that respect if i chose to show weakness

at the moment, only you really see any weakness of me, but thats because i have accepted that if you are to live with me, you are going to see it sooner or later, and i trust you, whether you can help or not

i have no problem with it at all. i think i show the most weakness out of the both of us

thats a strength in its own right

that strength is...? :]

you have the abilty to be open, and you cant get help if you arent open. being closed limits you to what you can learn

personally, i can deal with most things by myself. i just want secure and affectionate companionship

thats why im open to you only

if i realise i need something else, i'll open up to help that need too

its a selfish way to things, but i know that i have to give to take

one reason why i only open up to a girl i love

*woman :P

i'm probably thinking more than i need to, but what is openness exactly?

for me, its telling the truth

showing weakness comes under that

*telling the truth about yourself

it reminds me of how jakk described me one time. i know some people see it as a good trait, but i wish i was stronger

strength is not the lack of needing help

strength is using what you have (what you dont need help about) and get (what you do)

using poor kyle again, i see him as weak regardless of what he thinks

quit bitching man! get offline, see the world, do something about it.

fearing to do something is not the same as not doing it as it is too risky

fear overwhelms and you dont see everything and dont think about the actual consequences

ah. i do something then wonder if it was a good choice

dont worry about what you've done, worry about what you can do, using the past as a learning experience

i would say likewise, but i don't want to assume things

i think i know why we are together

personality wise

first off, think of a scale that goes from open, shallow doers to average people to closed, deep thinkers

avrage people have a myriad of both and varies from person to person

open shallow doers?

do before you think as opposed to think before you do

i mean it in extremes

oh, i thought you called me shallow ^^;

no

they are people that befriend everyone, dont get close because they aren't too close, and gain and lose some many people because they dont think

kyle is in this group but not as extreme

he gets lots of friends, loses lots of friends, complains he cant get close, makes loads of mistakes

the opposite of this is

no friends, deep thinking, alone,anyone they do get close to would have to be very close else they are just being used for a reason

average people are a mixture of each side

one of the few times i'm glad to be average

now, i see you as an average person because you want to be social and have friends but you want the quality and depth given by the thinkers

im a thinker but i realise i dont want to be alone and am willing to one person in close, maybe a small group, so having a wish to be average

if the scale is a - b - c

then i think we are together because we are you b -> c me b <- c

:)

you are something else. wow i can't be eloquent enough to think of something at the moment to describe what you are.

i have even worked out a rule

you can have a -> a b -> b c -> c a -> b b -> a c -> b b -> c

you cant have a -> c c-> a it just doesnt work in life

i get it. my examples aren't as smart as yours though

i have give examples for most of those

general, and personal if i think about it

a -> c is like having a valley girl in a mensa convention

c -> a is like having a claustrophobic in a mosh pit

lol

they are too extreme for that person to cope and/or suceed

kyle is a -> c

he tries to everyones buddy with the best part of c

it cant work because c is only in the nature of people classed bs and cs

either he matures to be b -> c or accepts that socialising doesnt work how he wants it to and goes a -> b

a -> c and c -> a are more attention seeking

zay is c -> b like me, tho has c -> a tendencies

she wants to be adored

she wants everyone to care, but not have many close

so that's why she gets on your nerves sometimes?

i guess so

shes isnt an attention whore. she just has self importance issues sometimes

i should probably go to bed. i'm not going to. must study for biology test, but i should get offline

damn, you were encouraging my thinking!

because i love when you get like this. it's not often that i can think about things of this nature

i don't want mom getting up and yelling at me though

surprising im like this since ive had zero sleep

hehe that caffeine must've helped your brain

i took it 3 hours ago

i think im going to post this convo publicly if you dont mind

sure. you haven't posted in ages.

hehe, im sure i'll get complaints

but its honesty

lol rebels aren't supposed to care about things like that

im not

i want them to know

i should copyright my theorem :P

*giggles* would that make me part of the experiment?

makes everyone i meet one

i'm not making these assumptions from what i know, but what i see

so are most of the people you know at the uni in the B area?

no, they tend to be extremer here

a -> b and c -> b
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