Another litany of hate

Apr 13, 2010 14:58


Hate speech against GBLT people is as virulent as it is common. And it’s toxic and dangerous. Our young hear it and are devalued and dehumanised, discouraged and debased. Our oppressors and attackers hear it and are encouraged, emboldened and justified. We hear it and we are wounded, afraid and enraged.

Hate speech is dangerous. Sticks and stones ( Read more... )

politics, homophobia, religion

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brewsternorth April 13 2010, 15:05:32 UTC
In fact, their blaming of us for their repeated rape of children is so vile that I can almost ignore Italian Bishop Francesco Nolè declaring that gays should not only be denied communion - but don’t deserve funerals either.

Agreed! Sounds like the standard "go to hell, go straight to hell, do not pass GO, do not collect your divine slap on the wrist" fare, which is better than being libeled for the actions of those in power who choose to abuse it.

/eta: extremely good news about the new EEOC head being appointed, though.

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sparkindarkness April 18 2010, 14:25:17 UTC
It probably says something about what an extreme institution of hate the Catholic church has become that "gay people don't deserve funerals" comes under "blah blah whatever" The hate is so strong here that it's pretty passe (insert acute accent I can't be bothered to figure out the code to write)

Very good news about the EEOC head :)

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kenakeri April 13 2010, 16:16:34 UTC
I wish I could say they're insane and stupid, but they're not. They know exactly what they're doing and it makes this all the more frightening.

I gave up Church for Lent more than six years ago and things like this? Make me glad I never went back.

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sparkindarkness April 18 2010, 14:26:04 UTC
They're bigotes and hateful and are cynically using hatred and prejudice to work in their favour. But then, what else is new, right?

I avoid oraganised religion - I am literally afraid of it.

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kenakeri April 18 2010, 14:54:13 UTC
Heh. Organised religion is scary, and the mind games that some of the faithful play can really screw with your head. Remind me to tell you about my exorcism experience sometime.

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sophiaserpentia April 13 2010, 17:03:12 UTC
A few years ago I used to participate in religious debate communities here on LJ. Once, I posted on spiritual abuse of GLBT people, posing the question, "Would a just God hold GLBT people accountable for losing their faith, when many leave the church because of the abuse they receive therein." I have met many GLBT people who are spiritual refugees from various churches, some of whom were traumatized so badly from various kinds of abuse that they cannot even go into a church without being triggered into panic attacks. So on Judgment Day, will they be sent to Hell? (Let the victim-blaming commence ( ... )

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sparkindarkness April 18 2010, 15:02:08 UTC
That's something I've often considered. I mean, do these prejduiced Christians realise they are driving people away from the church? Do they realise how much they are making people hate the church?

A very real point. The people they deride as sinners looked after their own when they abandonned us. They need to do a hell of a lot better if they seek to draw them back

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aviv_b April 13 2010, 18:16:40 UTC
Please note that your link to the Houston Religious Coalition doesn't seem to be working.

They just don't know when to stop, do they?

If I may add a boost to my favorite drumbeat (haters never hate just one group), the newest twist is the oldest ploy in the world - blame the Jews. Yep. Its their fault. Completely. Done to the classic tune of anti-semitism and blame the victim ..the Holocaust was terrible...but...

If anyone is interested, I have several quotes from retired Bishop Babini over on my journal:
http://aviv-b.livejournal.com/44134.html

What next? Take everyone who calls for justice and burn them at the stake?

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sparkindarkness April 18 2010, 15:07:13 UTC
Damn damn damn I shall try and fix it :)

Oh the blame the jews element as welll is equally disgusting. It horrifies me that that is still considered a valid defence by the CAtholic church. it's official they are INCAPABLE of learning

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masterde April 14 2010, 00:15:20 UTC
Ah, Annise Parker, how I support thee. Houston is the closest big city so I was wrapped with attention when it looked like she'd actually win. I was a supporter from the beginning but I really didn't sit up and pay close enough notice until close to the end. Ah, Annise Parker, the only facebook icon I have ever become a "fan" of. Long May She Reign ( ... )

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sparkindarkness April 18 2010, 15:28:04 UTC
I can't be shocked any more - it seems to be too damn standard, business as usual

I'm told over and over it's just the leadership - but seriously, when 80% + of all worldwide denominations of Christainity are homophobic... I have a hard time accepting that all those Christians under that leadership are willing to accept something they find abhorrent. For a member of a homophobic denomination, I can't help but hear "X is more important than treating you like a person."

The Catholic church. And the Anglican church. And the baptists. And the Mormons. Believe me the rhetoric of hate is out there and prevalent

I would like to see themleaving the hate denominations en masse. Vote with their feet, set up their own denominations that are inclusive. Make the haters fringe groups

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masterde April 18 2010, 15:37:56 UTC
"I would like to see [them leaving] the hate denominations en masse. Vote with their feet, set up their own denominations that are inclusive. Make the haters fringe groups."

I agree whole heartedly with your sentiment. It's time to just put the fringe people where there belong, on the fringe, and make the fringe the minority of course, if we're setting out hopes and dreams.

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