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COUNT THE VOTES!!!!
Florida and Michigan should be seated exactly as the votes came in. No exceptions otherwise you can kiss November goodbye!
The candidates never agreed that the votes would not count. They just signed an agreement with Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina that they would not campaign in those states.
When it came out the citizens in Florida and Michigan were really pissed about the situation, it was the Obama campaign that did not want to hold a re-vote because he was afraid he would still lose it again even though he may have been able to narrow down the spread of loss.
Obama made the stupid move of taking his name off the ballot and sunk himself in that situation. Him removing his name was playing the politics he has been touting to want to change. give me a break.
It has been Hillary Clinton that has been saying that they should be counted. Most people seem to forget that Hillary was calling for the votes to count way before a single vote was cast in Florida and Michigan yet the talking head pundits seem to want people to think it is just a ploy that she started because she was behind. They are DEAD WRONG!
And this whole notion that the voting in Florida was not fair because he did not get to campaign there. I think it is quite fair since none of the candidates got to campaign there. He would have some meat to his point if the others had campaigned there and he did not but I do remember it was the Obama campaign that bought national ad space on CNN just before the Florida and Michigan Primaries.
If people kept track of rule breaking then you would know that Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina ALL broke the rules but through back room deals got a 'pass'
How the math works....
If you take the remaining contests and split the delegates conservatively based on the current polls then seat Florida and Michigan based on the votes placed, then Hillary would only be 21 pledged delegates behind Obama.
Hillary has had more people vote for her and whether the DNC seats the deleagtes they cannot take away the votes she received because they were counted and certified by the Secretary of State of both states.
How can anyone stand by the DNC not counting the votes in Florida and Michigan when they try to dictate when the states can have their contests even though the DNC does not pay for them? The states and the people in the states paid for the primary election.
Also, how can anyone back a candidate that has been in office since 1997 and has spent over 60% of his time in office running for his next post? He has not been doing what the people voted him into office to do. They did not vote him in to be just a stepping stone to his next job. If he wins then what will he do with himself since he cannot move any higher? He will be stuck in a bad place having to back up all the change he has been touting for 16 months based on his history of playing the political games he is saying needs to be changed? He is a hypocrite.
I think Obama would be a great president in 4 or 8 years as soon as he actually gets a good amount of work in the federal government under his belt.
I started out backing neither candidate and after reading their plans, hearing their speeches and seeing there is no real substance to his 'change' message that I decided to back Hillary.
If he wants to change Washington so much then he needs to realize the best way to change it is to work from inside the Senate. Its such a shame that a supposed constitutional professor does not realize that!
Florida and Michigan should be seated exactly as the votes came in. No exceptions otherwise you can kiss November goodbye!
The candidates never agreed that the votes would not count. They just signed an agreement with Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina that they would not campaign in those states.
When it came out the citizens in Florida and Michigan were really pissed about the situation, it was the Obama campaign that did not want to hold a re-vote because he was afraid he would still lose it again even though he may have been able to narrow down the spread of loss.
Obama made the stupid move of taking his name off the ballot and sunk himself in that situation. Him removing his name was playing the politics he has been touting to want to change. give me a break.
It has been Hillary Clinton that has been saying that they should be counted. Most people seem to forget that Hillary was calling for the votes to count way before a single vote was cast in Florida and Michigan yet the talking head pundits seem to want people to think it is just a ploy that she started because she was behind. They are DEAD WRONG!
And this whole notion that the voting in Florida was not fair because he did not get to campaign there. I think it is quite fair since none of the candidates got to campaign there. He would have some meat to his point if the others had campaigned there and he did not but I do remember it was the Obama campaign that bought national ad space on CNN just before the Florida and Michigan Primaries.
If people kept track of rule breaking then you would know that Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina ALL broke the rules but through back room deals got a 'pass'
How the math works....
If you take the remaining contests and split the delegates conservatively based on the current polls then seat Florida and Michigan based on the votes placed, then Hillary would only be 21 pledged delegates behind Obama.
Hillary has had more people vote for her and whether the DNC seats the deleagtes they cannot take away the votes she received because they were counted and certified by the Secretary of State of both states.
How can anyone stand by the DNC not counting the votes in Florida and Michigan when they try to dictate when the states can have their contests even though the DNC does not pay for them? The states and the people in the states paid for the primary election.
Also, how can anyone back a candidate that has been in office since 1997 and has spent over 60% of his time in office running for his next post? He has not been doing what the people voted him into office to do. They did not vote him in to be just a stepping stone to his next job. If he wins then what will he do with himself since he cannot move any higher? He will be stuck in a bad place having to back up all the change he has been touting for 16 months based on his history of playing the political games he is saying needs to be changed? He is a hypocrite.
I think Obama would be a great president in 4 or 8 years as soon as he actually gets a good amount of work in the federal government under his belt.
I started out backing neither candidate and after reading their plans, hearing their speeches and seeing there is no real substance to his 'change' message that I decided to back Hillary.
If he wants to change Washington so much then he needs to realize the best way to change it is to work from inside the Senate. Its such a shame that a supposed constitutional professor does not realize that!