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Jul 25, 2005 04:41

well charlie and the chocolate factory was an undeniable piece of utter shit. what the hell. tim burton is 0 for 2 with remakes. planet of the apes was probably even worse ( Read more... )

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thepants July 25 2005, 17:35:29 UTC
he added the whole back story of willy's father which I had mixed feelings about but overall it worked. and the kids were a LITTLE different, like Violet wasn't SO competitive (just in gum-chewing she was). And Mike's dad didn't go on the trip. So there were inconsistincies. But in Charlie's character it was WAY closer. He was a pure kid. In the old movie he drank the fizzy-lifting drink, that was NOT in the book nor should it have been. He was a good, honest kid. The grandparents were the correct age this time (late nineties). Willy's sadistic side came out a lot clearer I believe. You get a stronger sense that he set up the other four children in the book and I didn't get that in the old movie (which I still have a place in my heart for). There was a lot more, but my hands are telling me to stop typing cuz they hurt. We can talk sometime.

Oh, and the songs were right out of the book. The music was of course interpreted (as it would have to be) but I remember distinct parts of the songs from the book (Roald Dahl wrote about 2 pages of lyrics for each song). They used weird enough words, one wouldn't forget them all. I don't know if it was verbatim, but they were REALLY close if not. The old songs were just obnoxious (oompa loompa doopity doo?). But again...there's still that soft spot in my heart for them.

Anyhoo...I'm only still replying because I've been waiting for this movie for two years. Chandra and I realized the other day that I was a junior in college when I first heard it was being made. So I'm defensive. ;)

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songintheair July 25 2005, 17:41:33 UTC
i'll see it again, and i'll probably warm up a little. but when the oompa loompa's turned into a hair metal band there was no going back for me. i try to see every movie twice though, even if i didnt like it the first time. i think maybe i just expected too much.

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thepants July 25 2005, 17:58:40 UTC
I agree...I'd forgotten the hair metal band (read: pushed out of my memory). That was when I kind of was like..."Well, I like everything ELSE ok, so I'll let this slide." But I understand.

And if you haven't read the book I'm sure it's no big deal, but to those of us who have...wow.

And one last note is that I think I liked it in part BECAUSE OF the visual inconsistencies if you're talking about the dramatic set changes. I found it appropriate. To each his own.

And Batman Begins...again...wow.
I voted for Crispin Glover to play the Joker in the next one. That'd be sweet. (Ain't It Cool News had a poll...nothing official of course...too bad too).

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iwantamullet July 25 2005, 20:38:38 UTC
mike's dad did go with him.
in the original violet's dad was with her, but this one went by the book with violet going with her mom.

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thepants July 25 2005, 23:33:46 UTC
Wow, you're right I re-read my post after you wrote that and realized I forgot a BIG difference. Charlie was the only child with ONE adult. All the other kids had both of their parents in the book. There were 14 adults in the book (minus Willy). And you're right, I forgot about Violet's dad.

Good call.

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iwantamullet July 26 2005, 17:33:14 UTC
Have you read Charlie and the Glass Elevator? I didn't get to:o

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thepants July 27 2005, 13:31:09 UTC
No, but it's next on my list! I wanted to as a kid, and I think I went looking for it but just never found it...I'll make it a goal now though.

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