Highest Rating You're Comfortable With: Tasteful NC-17 is fine with me. I don't like non-con. Dub-con, depending on context, might be all right. I don't like gratuitous violence or death, but violence or even major character death are fine if they serve a story's purpose. However, in general, I tend to play with UST more than I write actual porn and my usual favored rating is PG-13 for general entertainment purposes.
Other Fandoms: Doctor Who, Sherlock, Torchwood, The Big Bang Theory, Stargate SG-1, Life On Mars, Secret Diary of a Call Girl, Inception, Artemis Fowl, Percy Jackson & the Olympians, House, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, YuGiOh the Abridged Series, Channel Awesome, Digimon Adventure
Misc. Interests: Religion/Philosophy, English, Literature, stargazing, healthy food, cooking, costuming, make-up/cosmetics, dogs, traveling, London, Cardiff, the UK in general, Canada, Eastern Europe, World War II history (I used to like Hetalia but the fandom scares me now), History, instrumental music, adult alternative music/soft rock, pretty much all music except loud metal, fanvidding, icon-making, fic-writing, writing in general, TV production, Law, Public Relations
What You're Looking For: A friend to talk to--to help bounce fic ideas off of/fangirl with. RPing is good and fun, and I'm usually in the mood to try (third person usually). I'd really love a beta. More LJ friends. :) Anything, really.
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AIM: dameroseoftardis MSN: YIM: Other (specify): Main LJ: clockwork_sky Fic/Icon/Public/Other LJ: someinspired (this place!) Other Blog?: I have a dreamwidth account, but I hardly use it. Might start sometime.
Other: Since this happens to be my journal, you can find anything else you need by poking around.
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I'm really friendly. I don't bite. The only things I hate are bigotry, migraines and pineapples.
I'm tolerant. I love friendly arguments, but will pretty much never push a point if you ask me to stop.
Re: Their secret country... (minimanifesto)clockwork_skyJanuary 5 2011, 05:31:41 UTC
Ever since I read the absolutely heartbreakingly beautiful short fics that odette_river wrote concerning Pevencest, I've been hooked. While I ship slash in other instances, however, I've never yet been taken by a Narnia slash-ship. I'm not typically an incest shipper, though I rarely ever have a squick with it unless it's parent-child. If you're interested at all, I'd highly suggest you check out the Narnia fic she's written, even though my own personal interests in it have taken a slightly different tone and feel.
My interest in shipping the pairings I do in Narnia is a highly philosophical one. I've never been quite so taken with something so taboo before, but I think it's in great part due to the philosophical and psychological trappings of the pairings. On a personal level, I am highly interested in religious philosophy and mythology in general, and I never been to disrespect any of it. The Christian trappings of Narnia (and most of Lewis's writings) certainly don't bother me, however this and my shipping do not feel and never have felt mutually exclusive.
I'm open to religious and non-religious Narnia fans alike as fellow fangirls (or boys, as the unlikely case may be?), but I'm just putting that out there since this is my rant section.
I'm just taken with how much the Pevensies had to begin relying on one another. In spite of the fact that there are other humans later on, there are no humans, to my knowledge, in the country of Narnia itself when the Pevensies begin to rule. Further, later on, even when they came into contact with human populations of other countries, none of the four ever took on serious suitors or wed. In every other way, they seemed to age into healthy, mature adults, and much of my compassion for and the resonance of the Pevensies with me is the fact that they went from being almost-middle-aged adults to being children again and are basically given half of life to live again. So many of us wish for do-overs or another chance, and the Pevensies are quite an interesting look at what this would mean in reality--feeling the mind of an adult in a still-maturing child's body.
This is one of the reasons I rather prefer the movieverse to the books, because it seemed to have a much more poignant taste of this. That said, my various versions of personal head canon incorporate aspects of both the books and the movies.
As for Peter/Susan, in particular, which seems to be the more popular of the two pairings I listed, I think the reasons for this might be more immediately obvious to anyone reading this. Basically, I feel that they had to, in order to take care of their younger brother and sister at very first, bond in a way that would actually seem to be healthy for their relationship to grow into an intimate one. Peter and Susan also have the rapport of being the eldest and are closer in age and developmental stage when they first come to Narnia. Further, the later disillusionment of Susan with Narnia and their mutual reality could easily take into account and be interpreted as one of the more dramatic (and therefore perhaps believable?) backlashes to suddenly being in a world where everything she had come to know as home and normal is gone and different.
As for Edmund/Lucy, this takes on a bit more of a symbolic flavor for me, in spite of the fact that it simultaneously feels the most real to me. Edmund and Lucy are the most plainly opposite and juxtaposed when one looks at the literature/work as being symbolic in nature. Lucy is all purity, light, hope and faith. Edmund, on the other hand, is a very vivid and dynamic exploration of what it is like to be a good person with a very deep dark side--one which Lucy may know empirically but knows virtually nothing of personally. Edmund cannot be said to lack a similar childlike innocence to Lucy at the beginning, but he also most certainly does not share her rather absolute kindness, selflessness or purity.
Re: Their secret country... (minimanifesto)clockwork_skyJanuary 5 2011, 05:31:53 UTC
Further, as is the case with many fairy tales, I have noted the tendency in Narnia-fandom to relate the White Witch to Edmund's development into puberty and coming into knowledge of sexuality. (Many, many fairy tales are metaphors for this sort of thing as we all know.) Personally, I am sort of squicked by this notion, though I completely understand where people get it. However, I do very much see where the White Witch remains part of Edmund and does tempt him in many ways, if not sexually in a sense that stimulates his natural appetite for power. Given Edmund's being plagued with this temptation, I see that as they age and matured, became more reliant upon one another and came to love one another and their other two siblings more, being all alone in Narnia, Lucy may well have proved to be some sense of stability and very direct juxtaposition with the source of his temptation toward evil. (I am reminded of the nightmare scene in the recent Voyage of the Dawn Treader movie.)
Further, Edmund and Lucy seem to have been pushed closer together, even after their various returns from Narnia. Ultimately, Peter and Susan's relationship (regardless of its nature, based upon interpretation) and even Susan's relationship with Lucy and Edmund seems to have become strained. Instead of this happening, Edmund and Lucy seem to have become sort of "all each other have" even in this world, spending hours on their own, talking about what they've left behind and lost.
In both of these cases, I also point out the fact that there is the obscure line in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe which many people use as a justification for an alternative interpretation of family relationships. Everything in Narnia seems to hold a sort of purity, unless it itself is evil, and I think one of the primary points of Narnia is that real love is certainly never. The Pevensies had completely forgotten their lives on Earth, during The Golden Age. However, they had not forgotten one another. Alone, away from earthly society and its taboo, reasoning and imperfection, these are simply what I see, and I'm fixated on these notions.
Re: Their secret country...sensationsJanuary 18 2011, 07:25:39 UTC
i am adding you can we are mostly the same person. <3 i have been off lj for a while and am trying to make a ~comeback but if people like you are still here, then i am obligated to come back just to bask in the remaining narnia fandom-ers.
Re: Their secret country...clockwork_skyJanuary 18 2011, 13:31:10 UTC
Yay! You've no idea how happy this makes me. :D ♥
I didn't even get into Narnia until high school, really. My mother tried to read LWW to me when I was little, but I suppose my soft spot for Edmund was already in some force back then, because once he got to talking to Jadis and I saw alarm bells going off in my mind, I was too scared to let her continue. I was around four, I think, so I find this justifiable.
LJ is definitely one of the lesser-known and lesser-traveled paths in terms of social networking, but I definitely support this move to come back! I've never quite pried myself away from LJ for years, though my activity tends to come and go. I suppose this is because I admire the way the community works so much. Things like Facebook are all well and good, but they don't encourage freedom or expression or thought all that much. On Facebook, a person is all the content their is. Here, it's different. Here, we actually feel encouraged to say something and not worry about what long distant aunts or parents or schoolmates think.
Haha--same person? That's encouraging and nice to know.
I started this friending meme with pretty much no success out of my desperation for like-minded Narnia fans, but if it even pays off once, it's worth it. Nice to meet you!
I noticed you have AIM. I do, too. If you use it, we should talk later.
Age: 20 in less than a month
Warnings:
Taboo/Obscure/Lonely Pairing(s) Fandom(s): The Chronicles of Narnia (mostly movieverse but slightly informed by my reading/skimming of the books)
Taboo/Obsucre/Lonely Pairing(s): Edmund/Lucy, Peter/Susan
Mini-Manifesto:
(Attached because I write a lot. >.>)
Highest Rating You're Comfortable With: Tasteful NC-17 is fine with me. I don't like non-con. Dub-con, depending on context, might be all right. I don't like gratuitous violence or death, but violence or even major character death are fine if they serve a story's purpose. However, in general, I tend to play with UST more than I write actual porn and my usual favored rating is PG-13 for general entertainment purposes.
Other Fandoms: Doctor Who, Sherlock, Torchwood, The Big Bang Theory, Stargate SG-1, Life On Mars, Secret Diary of a Call Girl, Inception, Artemis Fowl, Percy Jackson & the Olympians, House, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, YuGiOh the Abridged Series, Channel Awesome, Digimon Adventure
Other Pairings: (by fandom and vague, inconsistent preference) Doctor/Rose, Doctor/Master, Jack/Martha, Mickey/Jake, Sherlock/John, Sherlock/Lestrade, Sally-->Sherlock, John/Sarah, Sherlock/Molly, Owen/Tosh, Gwen/Rhys, Owen/Gwen, Jack/Ianto, Jack/Gwen, Sheldon/Penny, Jack/Daniel, Jack/Sam, Sam/Annie, Ben/Hannah, Bambi/the-guy-she-married, Hannah/Bambi, Arthur/Ariadne, Arthur/Cobb, Ariadne/Cobb, Artemis/Holly, Percy/Annabeth, Arthur/Trillian, Arthur/Ford, Marvin/Anything-that-will-love-him, Marik/Bakura, NC/NCh, Taichi(Tai)/Yamato(Matt)
Misc. Interests: Religion/Philosophy, English, Literature, stargazing, healthy food, cooking, costuming, make-up/cosmetics, dogs, traveling, London, Cardiff, the UK in general, Canada, Eastern Europe, World War II history (I used to like Hetalia but the fandom scares me now), History, instrumental music, adult alternative music/soft rock, pretty much all music except loud metal, fanvidding, icon-making, fic-writing, writing in general, TV production, Law, Public Relations
What You're Looking For: A friend to talk to--to help bounce fic ideas off of/fangirl with. RPing is good and fun, and I'm usually in the mood to try (third person usually). I'd really love a beta. More LJ friends. :) Anything, really.
Contact Info
AIM: dameroseoftardis
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YIM:
Other (specify):
Main LJ: clockwork_sky
Fic/Icon/Public/Other LJ: someinspired (this place!)
Other Blog?: I have a dreamwidth account, but I hardly use it. Might start sometime.
Other: Since this happens to be my journal, you can find anything else you need by poking around.
Anything Else?
I'm really friendly. I don't bite. The only things I hate are bigotry, migraines and pineapples.
I'm tolerant. I love friendly arguments, but will pretty much never push a point if you ask me to stop.
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My interest in shipping the pairings I do in Narnia is a highly philosophical one. I've never been quite so taken with something so taboo before, but I think it's in great part due to the philosophical and psychological trappings of the pairings. On a personal level, I am highly interested in religious philosophy and mythology in general, and I never been to disrespect any of it. The Christian trappings of Narnia (and most of Lewis's writings) certainly don't bother me, however this and my shipping do not feel and never have felt mutually exclusive.
I'm open to religious and non-religious Narnia fans alike as fellow fangirls (or boys, as the unlikely case may be?), but I'm just putting that out there since this is my rant section.
I'm just taken with how much the Pevensies had to begin relying on one another. In spite of the fact that there are other humans later on, there are no humans, to my knowledge, in the country of Narnia itself when the Pevensies begin to rule. Further, later on, even when they came into contact with human populations of other countries, none of the four ever took on serious suitors or wed. In every other way, they seemed to age into healthy, mature adults, and much of my compassion for and the resonance of the Pevensies with me is the fact that they went from being almost-middle-aged adults to being children again and are basically given half of life to live again. So many of us wish for do-overs or another chance, and the Pevensies are quite an interesting look at what this would mean in reality--feeling the mind of an adult in a still-maturing child's body.
This is one of the reasons I rather prefer the movieverse to the books, because it seemed to have a much more poignant taste of this. That said, my various versions of personal head canon incorporate aspects of both the books and the movies.
As for Peter/Susan, in particular, which seems to be the more popular of the two pairings I listed, I think the reasons for this might be more immediately obvious to anyone reading this. Basically, I feel that they had to, in order to take care of their younger brother and sister at very first, bond in a way that would actually seem to be healthy for their relationship to grow into an intimate one. Peter and Susan also have the rapport of being the eldest and are closer in age and developmental stage when they first come to Narnia. Further, the later disillusionment of Susan with Narnia and their mutual reality could easily take into account and be interpreted as one of the more dramatic (and therefore perhaps believable?) backlashes to suddenly being in a world where everything she had come to know as home and normal is gone and different.
As for Edmund/Lucy, this takes on a bit more of a symbolic flavor for me, in spite of the fact that it simultaneously feels the most real to me. Edmund and Lucy are the most plainly opposite and juxtaposed when one looks at the literature/work as being symbolic in nature. Lucy is all purity, light, hope and faith. Edmund, on the other hand, is a very vivid and dynamic exploration of what it is like to be a good person with a very deep dark side--one which Lucy may know empirically but knows virtually nothing of personally. Edmund cannot be said to lack a similar childlike innocence to Lucy at the beginning, but he also most certainly does not share her rather absolute kindness, selflessness or purity.
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Further, Edmund and Lucy seem to have been pushed closer together, even after their various returns from Narnia. Ultimately, Peter and Susan's relationship (regardless of its nature, based upon interpretation) and even Susan's relationship with Lucy and Edmund seems to have become strained. Instead of this happening, Edmund and Lucy seem to have become sort of "all each other have" even in this world, spending hours on their own, talking about what they've left behind and lost.
In both of these cases, I also point out the fact that there is the obscure line in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe which many people use as a justification for an alternative interpretation of family relationships. Everything in Narnia seems to hold a sort of purity, unless it itself is evil, and I think one of the primary points of Narnia is that real love is certainly never. The Pevensies had completely forgotten their lives on Earth, during The Golden Age. However, they had not forgotten one another. Alone, away from earthly society and its taboo, reasoning and imperfection, these are simply what I see, and I'm fixated on these notions.
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I didn't even get into Narnia until high school, really. My mother tried to read LWW to me when I was little, but I suppose my soft spot for Edmund was already in some force back then, because once he got to talking to Jadis and I saw alarm bells going off in my mind, I was too scared to let her continue. I was around four, I think, so I find this justifiable.
LJ is definitely one of the lesser-known and lesser-traveled paths in terms of social networking, but I definitely support this move to come back! I've never quite pried myself away from LJ for years, though my activity tends to come and go. I suppose this is because I admire the way the community works so much. Things like Facebook are all well and good, but they don't encourage freedom or expression or thought all that much. On Facebook, a person is all the content their is. Here, it's different. Here, we actually feel encouraged to say something and not worry about what long distant aunts or parents or schoolmates think.
Haha--same person? That's encouraging and nice to know.
I started this friending meme with pretty much no success out of my desperation for like-minded Narnia fans, but if it even pays off once, it's worth it. Nice to meet you!
I noticed you have AIM. I do, too. If you use it, we should talk later.
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