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tielle_mortevus June 23 2010, 04:57:22 UTC
My sister would probably know more of what kind of mixture could do such a thing, but in most cases unless the use is deliberate, the substance is usually put into food or drink, much like poison would be. They wouldn't have to have eaten the same thing so long as both contained the alchemic concoction.
[She pauses for a moment,giving a slight smirk]
As for the reasoning behind my interest, it is a little of both. I'm curious what could do such a thing, seeing as neither of you are from my world, and it may give me more insight as to what lies beyond this plane of existence. On the other hand, his situation does bring back memories of pranks my sister used to play on me... and still does at times... so I can relate to his predicament somewhat.
[She rubs her head in frustration thinking back to some of her sister's more obnoxious tricks.]
Though I've never had the experience of changing gender, my sister did manage to spike my drink with a age altering potion. What a nightmare it was, trying to get my subjects to take me seriously while having the appearance of a small child...

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somedriedfish June 23 2010, 05:08:21 UTC
[Knowing her reasons helps. His arms are still crossed, and he doesn't move, but perhaps his face loses a tiny bit of its guardedness.]

There are no such things readily in supply to my knowledge in this world.
To be certain, a serum with the ability to alter one's exterior...would be sought after.
Some information would be possible were it to come about.

Even so, the effects seem temporary, though lingering.

Yet...
Were it bothersome to Hizumi to be in his situation, he would not be in the situation. He would not allow it.
He is such a person.

Whatever his reason, it somehow bends to his advantage to be female, whether his hand is behidn it or not.
The effect lingers because he wills it to.
Fate itself bends to his whim, and renders him indestructible.

There is truly, in that regard, little reason to pity him.

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tielle_mortevus June 23 2010, 05:19:06 UTC
How is that possible, the effects lingering because he wills it to... unless the effect is designed to last until it is dispelled through some action or vocal component...
[She pauses for a moment, thinking over what she had just heard]
You say fate bends to his whim... what do you mean by that? Is he some sort of god where you're from? Not many can bend fate itself, try as we might. Even with all my power, my vast empire, I cannot even do that much.

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somedriedfish June 23 2010, 05:40:03 UTC
Whether or not there are true gods in this world, the belief allows for metaphor based upon the mythos.
Presuming the existance in your world of a force of evil, and a force of good, and a "creator", it's easiest to use the story of that creator.

[leaning back slightly, but giving the story with perfect calmness]
Since the story may be different...
Let us say the creator created "Adam", and gave him dominion over the creatures of the earth, and superior intellect and superior violence. Also given to him was "Eve", in whom was life, and also in whom came death.
Man, and woman.

In allegorical terms, a "Devil" came to the earth recently, from this creator in the form of a man with superior intelligence and superior violence. He created many children in turn, all of whom inherited his will, intelligence, and violence, following the pattern of a curse more closely than the laws of true heredity. All without exception, each marked with proof of heritage by the removal of a rib--the sign of dominion as the new human race.

For this, this "Devil" and his created children were feared, but no human hand existed capable of killing him, this "Adam".
Fate itself laid its blanket of protection over him, it seemed.

A different man emerged soon after, gifted with equal intelligence, an "Eve". But this man didn't exist to bring children, but rather, death to this "Devil".
He did. Quite easily, and yet, the cursed chidlren remained, without a solution.

This "God" figure is Kiyotaka Narumi, elder brother of Ayumu Narumi.
This "Devil" figure is Yaiba Mizushiro, elder brother of Hizumi Mizushiro.

To state simply, fate seems to be repeating itself.

Hizumi holds all the capacity, gifts, and danger of Yaiba. He is a "Devil" in human form--a force capable of destroying humanity as it is now known.
Ayumu Narumi on the other hand, grew stunted living in his brother's shadow, and yet, is presented as the hope for those remaining descendants of the first "Adam" and "devil", Yaiba.

[he bows his head]
In terms of blood, Hizumi, though younger than I, is my uncle.
I, am one of Yaiba's cursed children.
As such, my fate lies in the hands of Ayumu Narumi.

Should Little Narumi repeat his brother's actions and kill Hizumi, the blade children cannot have salvation.

And yet, the abilities of the second "Adam" and "Eve", are in no way diminished. Hizumi is unkillable by any hand but his rival's. Fate itself bends to some extent, to his whim, and leaves him under its protection.

[A moment's pause]
Given Hizumi's equality to his brother in every aspect, even should this affliction be on him through another's hand, it is impossible for the effect to persist without Hizumi's will allowing for it.

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tielle_mortevus June 23 2010, 22:21:25 UTC
That is... very interesting... though a bit hard to fathom...
So the only way to get this to end, is to do something that would make Hizumi no longer wish to be female?

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Fatalistic much, Eyes? XD somedriedfish June 24 2010, 22:29:51 UTC
I'm unaccustomed to speaking on it so openly, and certainly without any knowledge of how much athropological metaphor I might weave to better illustrate.
Apologies.

Nonetheless, it's a difficult concept, and you appear to misunderstand yet.

Convincing Hizumi he wishes not to be female is tedious, and time-consuming, and seems entirely fruitless to me.

Whether or not he is female changes nothing, except he must perceive some advantage from it.
No doubt, this advantage is something to the effect of joining with Little Narumi.

Attempting to protect Little Narumi from such efforts is likewise tedious, and ineffective in the face of one whose power extends over even fate and causuality.

The fact the situation seems temporary in all other cases leads to the conclusion Hizumi will change back at some point, but certainly not before his attempt and attack are made, because that will predictably be his will and purpose.

That fate cannot be battled leads to the utter uselessness of most strategies to bend Hizumi's situation in one regard or another.

Have I made the potential frustration of such a position more understandable?

The situation will have an end, that is certain.
However, it's unlikely that this end will come about through outside force--yours or mine.

What remains is to hope in Ayumu Narumi's ability as the "God" present on the playing board, in opposition to Hizumi's "Devil".
His ability is such that he would be capable of matching, or defeating Hizumi's efforts and intents.
[And here there's a flicker of something, almost like disdain or frustration on Eyes' face]
...Assuming, of course, that he doesn't deny such potential or ability.

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tielle_mortevus June 25 2010, 04:12:20 UTC
Hmm, though his mind still remains that of a man... and if I know anything about how men think, they are easily swayed by the lure of a woman. We don't need him to will the change for long, just enough to make him change.

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somedriedfish June 25 2010, 07:07:48 UTC
[That merits a small, wry turn of the edges of his mouth, but then again, he's the closet homosexual, so he has more reason to find it amusing than he might otherwise.]
...A suggestion, or simply a statement?
Certainly, the thought crossed my mind in terms of Hizumi's motives.
But...perhaps you were making an entirely different suggestion.

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tielle_mortevus June 25 2010, 07:16:06 UTC
I've no qualms about using such tactics should they prove to be effective. I also have quite a collection of servants at my disposal should I not suit his tastes.
[She simply gives Eyes a devilish grin.]

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somedriedfish June 25 2010, 07:31:56 UTC
Certainly your depth of dedication is...admirable.
[Though he says it dryly and only raises his eyebrows, the hint of a smile not exactly broadening nor diminishing.]

And the essence of this note on the inner qualities of the male mind, as boiled into a plan to facilitate his return to normal operates...to what end?

[He can think of several possibilities.
Quite far to go for something like this, nonetheless...
...What does she gain in making Hizumi male again? That's what he really wants to figure out.]

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tielle_mortevus June 25 2010, 07:37:06 UTC
Mere curiosity really. I enjoy figuring out what makes people tick. It's a strange and slightly destructive obsession, since I tend to push a lot of buttons in the process... but it keeps me occupied.
Besides, it might be fun to see how he'll react...

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somedriedfish June 25 2010, 07:52:38 UTC
[Still smiling. Anyone who knows him knows just how scary that is. Something really must be amusing him...]
He may yet surprise you.
Hizumi's a similar personality, himself.

Do be careful should you decide to go through with these endeavours to see just what makes Hizumi tick.

[No, he's not going to say anything else, or offer. He knows better, but the prospect of someone trying ot take Hizumi apart is still one he finds amusing.]

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tielle_mortevus June 25 2010, 07:55:36 UTC
How... interesting. What should I need to be careful of though? I find it hard to believe someone like him can really be very... dangerous...

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somedriedfish June 25 2010, 08:01:44 UTC
[The smile fades, and he studies her a moment with something like a fragment of pity, then a slight frown pulls at his eyebrows]
...I see...He's completely taken you in, then.
How unfortunate.

No matter.
For one who wishes the pleasure of taking apart a still-living organism, the spoiling of its vital surprise is unforgivable.
I will not spoil this pleasure for you should you be capable of taking such a thing from him.

Do as you wish.

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tielle_mortevus June 25 2010, 08:06:46 UTC
It's nothing to do with him having taken me in or not. To be quite honest I hardly know the boy...girl....whatever... and it's the fact I hardly know him that makes this all the more fun.

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somedriedfish June 25 2010, 08:10:59 UTC
[Consideration in the flatness of his face, or is it imagined? The voice doesn't change, nor does the manner...]
Indeed...but I know something of taking apart a living creature from the inside as it yet lives, and it's my understanding, should you barely know him, that this acquainting becomes your business to solve as you please.

The puzzle is of no interest, and furthermore, no challenge to someone with clear directions to its solution.

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